The best Trackman numbers as far as controlling face, path, and ascent/descent.....

[Michael Finney]

is Jim Furyk according to Fredrik Tuxen (the inventor of Trackman).

What does that say about the "As ye goes back, ye must come down" crowd?

I thought it was interesting that the guy with the "craziest" backswing in major competitive golf history has the best Trackman numbers with respect to consistent ball flight.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Personally, imo, no matter the golfer you make the backswing you have to make that allows you to make the downswing you want to make. So if that's what Jim needs to be so perfect from "hip high to hip high" as they say. Who cares.

 

[Michael Finney]

you're making my point, jim

 

[birdie_man]

So is he saying no one's numbers (speed excluded) for one given swing are Furyk's?

Or one given swing ("optimal numbers") plus the ability to repeat those numbers...?

That is interesting BTW. You really couldn't pick a more perfect guy. ("funky" swing I mean)

Here ye here ye! As ye go back ye must come down! -Town Crier

 

[tennisdu]

Jim's got the clubhouse lead at the Masters. Very interesting.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

you're making my point, jim

Yup, if i wasn't clear i am 100% in agreement with you. I'm just saying that backswing's matter, but only to the point to where they allow you to make the downswing you want/need too.

 

[curtisj76]

I guess that's what happens when you hit 18 GIR's.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

I guess that's what happens when you hit 18 GIR's.

What do you mean?

 

[curtisj76]

Jimmy was 18/18 today.

 

[cnadon]

what are they?

Just what are his numbers? Or do you mean he has the same numbers most consistently?

is Jim Furyk according to Fredrik Tuxen (the inventor of Trackman).

What does that say about the "As ye goes back, ye must come down" crowd?

I thought it was interesting that the guy with the "craziest" backswing in major competitive golf history has the best Trackman numbers with respect to consistent ball flight.

 

[mb6606]

is Jim Furyk according to Fredrik Tuxen (the inventor of Trackman).

What does that say about the "As ye goes back, ye must come down" crowd?

I thought it was interesting that the guy with the "craziest" backswing in major competitive golf history has the best Trackman numbers with respect to consistent ball flight.

You can groove any pattern you desire but why make a difficult game any harder by adding plane shifts?

 

[tongzilla]

You can groove any pattern you desire but why make a difficult game any harder by adding plane shifts?

Because for some people adding unconventional moves in their swing helps to consistently produce impact numbers.

 

[holeout]

You can groove any pattern you desire but why make a difficult game any harder by adding plane shifts?

It's not about adding plane shifts. It's about not needing to take them away for the sake of "reducing compensations" or other B.S.

 

[vjsinger]

Because for some people adding unconventional moves in their swing helps to consistently produce impact numbers.

I would guess Furyk has swung like that since he was a little one and just made it work after hitting so many golf balls...I am not sure what you are saying though...Are you saying this is the only way he could swing a club and be successful? Or are you just making a general statement By the way, I'm not trying to be rude or mean, I'm honestly asking a question which I percieve as legit.

 

[James Marshall (Hogan1953)]

It probably says more about the man than his method or is it Pattern 13?

 

[pecky987]

i think his swing, and miller barbers, and jim thorpe, and trevinos, allen doyle and eamon darcy all are technically very sound through impact. thats all that matters cos you dont hit the ball on the backswing.

i believe its down to the fact they just hit so many golf balls

 

[Brian Manzella]

Whoa!!!!

It's not about adding plane shifts. It's about not needing to take them away for the sake of "reducing compensations" or other B.S.

Easily in the top 10 post of ALL-TIME on this on any other golf forum!

 

[Brian Manzella]

It probably says more about the man than his method or is it Pattern 13?

Nah.

 

[Guitar Hero]

"As ye goes back, ye must come down"

is Jim Furyk according to Fredrik Tuxen (the inventor of Trackman).

What does that say about the "As ye goes back, ye must come down" crowd?

I thought it was interesting that the guy with the "craziest" backswing in major competitive golf history has the best Trackman numbers with respect to consistent ball flight.

The old saying "As ye goes back, ye must come down" is just another bad golf term that will always be around. It does not tell the true story. The back swing components will set up the down swing components and some patterns work better for some folks than others even if they seem to be odd. Every golfer has their view of the swing as well as the feel. Some golfers might look at Jim or Lee and in their minds eye think that this is the way their swing should look. The problem is when an instructor, tour pro or golfer tells you what it has to look like or feel like. This is when confusion sets in as that golfer might not see or feel it that way. Using TrackMan or FlightScope is great for this as both the golfer and instructor are seeing numbers. The instructor works on custom components to optimize the numbers and the golfer works on their minds eye and feel of the swing. It is a perfect match that might end up with a swing similar to Jim’s, Lee’s or even Tigers.

To Better Golf,

John W Rohan-Weaver CMAI, GSEM, NASM

 

[mb6606]

It's not about adding plane shifts. It's about not needing to take them away for the sake of "reducing compensations" or other B.S.

You totally missed my point.
I stated you can use any "pattern you desire" which most golfers do - but honestly if you were teaching a young beginner golfer would you teach/start with the Furyk pattern???