The Right Forearm Pickup....non-technical

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Brian Manzella

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At address, with your right forearm on plane with the clubshaft and your left wrist nearly uncocked...use your RIGHT FOREARM---the whole right forearm----THE ONE THAT IS IN PLANE with the clubshaft...to LIFT---& i mean L I F T, the hands/arms/and club unit to the TOP of a TURNED SHOULDER PLANE backstroke.

It WILL TAKE your BODY to the top of the swing WITH IT.

Do not move your head.

The OPTION is Shoulder Turn Takeaway. There is the BEST article ever on doing that on this site. Make it your second OPTION.;)
 
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Ringer

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Brian.. would you say the right arm pickup is better suited for hitters and the shoulder turn takeaway is better suited to swingers?
 
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Mathew

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The right forearm takeaway is just a blend of lateral rotation of the entire right arm (forearm fanning), extensor action, and checkrein action of the left arm (bending the right forearm up from the upperarm). My preference at the current time is to switch from classic address hands to impact hands in start up.

These actions can be done happen easily if you trace the plane line with your pp3.... and create a 3d takeaway.
 
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ForeverNewbie

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Hi:

Should one visualize or attempt to keep the right elbow in the same place with the pickup. I remember EdZ mentioning the right forearm roatating and swivelling around the right elbow joint.

Bye
 
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dclaryjr

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

At address, with your right forearm on plane with the clubshaft and your left wrist nearly uncocked...use your RIGHT FOREARM---the whole right forearm----THE ONE THAT IS IN PLANE with the clubshaft...to LIFT---& i mean L I F T, the hands/arms/and club unit to the TOP of a TURNED SHOULDER PLANE backstroke.

It WILL TAKE your BODY to the top of the swing WITH IT.
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Sounds like a hands-controlled pivot--what a concept!!:)
 
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corky05

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Use your whole RF to lift. This is where I could use either video or an example of this lift using some kind of practical application. Is there an everyday application where we move similar to this? Because I'm having the toughest time trying to picture this. In my mind I have a picture of a swing with very little width, and very bent left arm. I know a little left bent arm isn't bad, but I don't think I'm getting this at all? Thanks for any visuals that might help the penny drop.


quote:Originally posted by brianman

At address, with your right forearm on plane with the clubshaft and your left wrist nearly uncocked...use your RIGHT FOREARM---the whole right forearm----THE ONE THAT IS IN PLANE with the clubshaft...to LIFT---& i mean L I F T, the hands/arms/and club unit to the TOP of a TURNED SHOULDER PLANE backstroke.

It WILL TAKE your BODY to the top of the swing WITH IT.

Do not move your head.

The OPTION is Shoulder Turn Takeaway. There is the BEST article ever on doing that on this site. Make it your second OPTION.;)
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Brian Manzella

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I will try to post a video clip soon.

Butthink of a QB patting the ball (waggle) then forearm LIFTing to the top.

Touchdown!
 
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EdZ

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It may help to think of an on plane 'right hand karate chop' - with the pinky side of your right hand (fanning) - right elbow leading. It is a more 'up' move than a 'rock skip' in the takeaway

This gives the 'entire forearm' feel.

Hit the ball with inside/underside your right forearm.

"Hit the ball with the right elbow"

As opposed to a 'right palm on plane slap' (hitters motion)
 
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Arizonian

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

At address, with your right forearm on plane with the clubshaft and your left wrist nearly uncocked...use your RIGHT FOREARM---the whole right forearm----THE ONE THAT IS IN PLANE with the clubshaft...to LIFT---& i mean L I F T, the hands/arms/and club unit to the TOP of a TURNED SHOULDER PLANE backstroke.

It WILL TAKE your BODY to the top of the swing WITH IT.

Do not move your head.

The OPTION is Shoulder Turn Takeaway. There is the BEST article ever on doing that on this site. Make it your second OPTION.;)
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Thanks, Brian
I was trying to get this info on the 'right forearm' a month ago.
 
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Arizonian

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Corky,
I've been working on this. You must have a relaxed left arm & shoulders. Take the club back,(lifting), using the right forearm only. I was first able to get this feeling by using a weighted club.
 
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dclaryjr

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

I will try to post a video clip soon.

Butthink of a QB patting the ball (waggle) then forearm LIFTing to the top.

Touchdown!
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You're obviously not thinking of the Aints!! :)

A question: Do you think that there is a stroke pattern (per TGM) that would be considered lower maintenance than others. I'm thinking of my own situation where right now time is a premium--I don't have much of it to spare. I can do living room drills and the like--just hard for me to hit balls.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Ed...by Mike's own admission, he is NOT using right forearm pickup.

He is working on it...


Dave...have to see your swing first, but I will post a basic swing procedure soon.
 
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EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

Ed...by Mike's own admission, he is NOT using right forearm pickup.

He is working on it...


Dave...have to see your swing first, but I will post a basic swing procedure soon.
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Was he working on it when the clip was shot? Hard to see without the down the line shot, but at the least "hands control" is clear in that clip.
 
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dclaryjr

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quote:Originally posted by EdZ

It may help to think of an on plane 'right hand karate chop' - with the pinky side of your right hand (fanning) - right elbow leading. It is a more 'up' move than a 'rock skip' in the takeaway
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Another analogy I've seen used is pulling a lawn mower cord.
 
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EdZ

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I would consider them separate. The lawn mower cord image is VERY good for a hitter's motion/takeaway. The right forearm pickup IMO is much more of a swinger's motion/takeway. The swinger has more rotation. The hitter is more of a paddle wheel/right palm slap.

Both can help you feel the right elbow pivot point and plane.
 
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matt

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quote:Originally posted by EdZ

quote:Originally posted by brianman

Ed...by Mike's own admission, he is NOT using right forearm pickup.

He is working on it...


Dave...have to see your swing first, but I will post a basic swing procedure soon.
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Was he working on it when the clip was shot? Hard to see without the down the line shot, but at the least "hands control" is clear in that clip.
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In that video, he definitely looks like he's using a shoulder turn takeaway. Look at it about halfway back - you can just see him turning back with his upper body vs. picking the club back, up, and in.
 
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ForeverNewbie

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Hi:

For swingers, after one does the right forearm pickup, how does one then switch from an active effort to a passive one? Swinger's right arm is supposed to be passive. Just let the right arm drop? Or does the right bicep remain clenched and the left side pulls it down? Feels like the right forearm is always active if I do the pickup. Seems more compatible for hitters.

Bye
 
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njmp2

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quote:Originally posted by EdZ

I would consider them separate. The lawn mower cord image is VERY good for a hitter's motion/takeaway. The right forearm pickup IMO is much more of a swinger's motion/takeway. The swinger has more rotation. The hitter is more of a paddle wheel/right palm slap.

Both can help you feel the right elbow pivot point and plane.
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MUCH more a swingers motion????? Yoda teaches the right forearm takeaway for hitters and swingers. And since Yoda loves hitting, maybe the RFT is more hitter. NO way- saying it is more for one swing over another is a stupid way the think. EdZ you are always off the target.

LOL and you copyright that stuff too, so funny
 
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