The Right Forearm Pickup....non-technical

[holenone]

quote:Originally posted by ForeverNewbie

Hi:

For swingers, after one does the right forearm pickup, how does one then switch from an active effort to a passive one? Swinger's right arm is supposed to be passive. Just let the right arm drop? Or does the right bicep remain clenched and the left side pulls it down? Feels like the right forearm is always active if I do the pickup. Seems more compatible for hitters.

Bye

The Swinger's Right Arm can never be completely passive. That is because the Backstroke's Right Forearm Pickup) demands an active biceps, and continuous Extensor Action demands an active triceps.

However, it is the Drag Loading (10-19-C) of the Left Arm, Left Wrist and Left Hand Power Accumulators (6-B-4/2/3)that generates and sustains the Left Side Pull of the Stroke and renders the Right Arm passive. Though not active in terms of Thrust, the Right Arm and Hand play a major role in the Aiming and Guidance of the Centrifugal Drive (6-C-2-A). This Centrifugal Acceleration and the Lag Pressure created by its Loading -- the disinclination of the Club to go along with you -- is felt in the Right Forefinger (Pressure Point #3) and guided along the Straight Plane Line by the Forearm Motion.

 

[EdZ]

quote:Originally posted by njmp2

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

I would consider them separate. The lawn mower cord image is VERY good for a hitter's motion/takeaway. The right forearm pickup IMO is much more of a swinger's motion/takeway. The swinger has more rotation. The hitter is more of a paddle wheel/right palm slap.

Both can help you feel the right elbow pivot point and plane.

MUCH more a swingers motion????? Yoda teaches the right forearm takeaway for hitters and swingers. And since Yoda loves hitting, maybe the RFT is more hitter. NO way- saying it is more for one swing over another is a stupid way the think. EdZ you are always off the target.

LOL and you copyright that stuff too, so funny

Oh gee, I forgot, Yoda is never wrong, Homer is never wrong

How's that kool-aid?
The nike shoes?

as a member of the cult, you must attack anyone who questions?

What a jerk.

I am giving my view. You are entitled to yours, but don't be rude. You disagree with my view, RFP is more 'early rotation', and hence I think it 'fits' better with a swinger's motion.

And your defense of 'your' view is simply "yoda said so"

follow the leader, don't question anything and you'll never learn

 

[njmp2]

I have learn (and asked thousands of questions) from some of the best- I'm looking at my list- no YOU AREN'T ONE OF THEM. I have applied what Homer wrote, what Yoda teaches and it works, it is correct. You, wack job, are on an ego trip thinking because you play a golf instructor online, that you can toss your name on a list with Kelly, Blake, Morrison and others.

If this was my forum and you classified TGM as a kool aid cult, Id have you tossed. What little regard you really have for TGM.

 

[corky05]

Just got back from the course and couldn't wait to see if there were responses to my question. I see there has been quite a few. I thank everyone. I can really relate to the quarterback example, its much appreciated, Brian!

 

[swingeasttowest]

ED make sure you use "Educated Hands" while drinking the Kool Aid....[B)]

 

[fdb2]

Brian,

Am not a very frequent poster but do obtain much information from this forum. Please elaborate on the right forearm and pickup.. This is good stuff.

 

[zed075]

quote:Originally posted by fdb2

Brian,

Am not a very frequent poster but do obtain much information from this forum. Please elaborate on the right forearm and pickup.. This is good stuff.

i, too, do not post much but would appreciate elaboration....

 

[TYORKE1]

CHIMP2 , this forum is called golf swing discussion and debate, that means more than one opinion,agree or disagree , but have some class. Golf is still about etticate whether talking about it or playing it. TIM

 

[wanole]

quote:Originally posted by TYORKE1

CHIMP2 , this forum is called golf swing discussion and debate, that means more than one opinion,agree or disagree , but have some class. Golf is still about etticate whether talking about it or playing it. TIM

I agree debate is good, but when it is the same person disagreeing with almost every thread you wonder if there is some alterior motive going on.

 

[EdZ]

No motive other than truth. Ironic really. I have no agenda. I'm always open to learning. I've said it many times. I DO have questions that have not been answered. That is all. Really quite simple. I think it is funny that people think I am trying to 'discredit' anyone. Not at all.

Debate is good. Try it. Answer questions, support positions. You don't agree, great. But don't respond like a 6 year old, I'll call you on it. It is rude and nobody learns anything from it other than people get attacked for asking questions that don't support the 'group' view. That is a shame, a real shame.

We work better together than we do apart. We all love this game. So what is wrong with asking questions? That is ALL I am doing. What about you?

 

[corky05]

Tim, I don't think there has ever been a problem with discussion and debate for 99.99% of the forum. Lately, everytime a good debate begins a depth charge is dropped on it, its high jacked, and its diverted back to trying to prove some off the wall claim thats not even related. If its not that, then its the authoritative delivery of misinformation, which then has to be cleaned up by a dozen people, to which the high jacker says,"Yup!, Exactly! Thats what I mean't. And the constant challenging of Brian and Yoda to prove something thats already accepted is ridiculus! They are not trying to disprove the book, he is, but can't, so he asks Yoda or Brian a littany of questions in a tone thats supposed to infer that they should be on the defense. And, Oh yea! Remember the original poster? No, thats out the window for the self-serving one. Yet he continues to bite at their ankles, thinking he'll gain acceptance. I get excited about a topic like this one, "RFP", then I come back five hours later and the usual suspect has attempted to turn it into Sh--! Couple this with the foul language and the anti american sentiments last week that had to be expunged from the Forum and he's not exactly endearing himself to everyone. JMO

 

[wanole]

quote:Originally posted by corky05

Tim, I don't think there has ever been a problem with discussion and debate for 99.99% of the forum. Lately, everytime a good debate begins a depth charge is dropped on it, its high jacked, and its diverted back to trying to prove some off the wall claim thats not even related. If its not that, then its the authoritative delivery of misinformation, which then has to be cleaned up by a dozen people, to which the high jacker says,"Yup!, Exactly! Thats what I mean't. And the constant challenging of Brian and Yoda to prove something thats already accepted is ridiculus! They are not trying to disprove the book, he is, but can't, so he asks Yoda or Brian a littany of questions in a tone thats supposed to infer that they should be on the defense. And, Oh yea! Remember the original poster? No, thats out the window for the self-serving one. Yet he continues to bite at their ankles, thinking he'll gain acceptance. I get excited about a topic like this one, "RFP", then I come back five hours later and the usual suspect has attempted to turn it into Sh--! Couple this with the foul language and the anti american sentiments last week that had to be expunged from the Forum and he's not exactly endearing himself to everyone. JMO

Well said!!

 

[EdZ]

Corky, you are a huge part of the problem. Between you and njmp2, YOU have been the cause of what you complain about. Taking discussions off topic.

I ask questions that nobody answers and somehow it is my fault? I continue to ask questions, and because the answers don't fit the accepted view, you attack me?

And now I'm anti-american? For asking questions?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ad hominem

 

[corky05]

No, Ed! Your not the victim here. And, its not for asking questions, its for the post that had to be removed by Brian, the day after the election. And luckily for you it was removed so early in the morning that most probably didn't see it. If you would like to talk about anything that is not related to this topic feel free to e-mail me. But for the courtesy of everybody here and especially the original poster, please don't feel as though you need to reply to this post. If there is a burning desire to ask questions, post a new topic. It will probably turn into "cricketville", like all your other posts. For further explanation of "cricketville" feel free to e-mail me ,as well. But, lets both not be so selfish as to degrade this topic anymore.
In a nutshell, you are very transparent, your agenda is obvious, and people resent that with your Midas touch, you turn stimulating topics into cesspools ankle biting the KOLs(Key Opinion Leaders). If you truly aren't selfish, I'll be awaiting your reply on e-mail.

 

[EdZ]

People can judge for themselves corky, I don't mind one bit. I assume you are talking about my post in support of questioning our government? As a citizen of a democracy, I consider that a duty. Especially given current events. And that is why you continue to attack my views on golf?

 

[bcoak]

"If you truly aren't selfish, I'll be awaiting your reply on e-mail."
Point proven. Game, set, match.

 

[bcoak]

quote:Originally posted by brianman

At address, with your right forearm on plane with the clubshaft and your left wrist nearly uncocked...use your RIGHT FOREARM---the whole right forearm----THE ONE THAT IS IN PLANE with the clubshaft...to LIFT---& i mean L I F T, the hands/arms/and club unit to the TOP of a TURNED SHOULDER PLANE backstroke.

It WILL TAKE your BODY to the top of the swing WITH IT.

Do not move your head.

The OPTION is Shoulder Turn Takeaway. There is the BEST article ever on doing that on this site. Make it your second OPTION.

Re: my red highlights:
1. On plane with the clubshaft. Does this mean a straight line from club thru forearm?
2. Use the whole right forearm. Does this mean elbow to wrist with no hands?

Thanks.

 

[EdZ]

Gee, quite an assuption there bcoak. do you have access to my email, to corky's email?

email sent

don't assume, jerk

 

[wanole]

I know this has been discussed a million times, but I think I am starting to get this magic of the right arm and right arm,upback and in.

My question is when taking the club back, does the right elbow pretty much stay in the same place? If I fan and take the arm up on plane my elbow barely moves. Maybe a little up.

Just want to make sure I am doing it properly.

thanks,

Joe

 

[bcoak]

not worth it. love my above questions answered however.