The Right Forearm Pickup....non-technical

[EdZ]

quote:Originally posted by wanole

I know this has been discussed a million times, but I think I am starting to get this magic of the right arm and right arm,upback and in.

My question is when taking the club back, does the right elbow pretty much stay in the same place? If I fan and take the arm up on plane my elbow barely moves. Maybe a little up.

Just want to make sure I am doing it properly.

thanks,

Joe

Yes, the right elbow is a huge key to the swing. It moves on plane, and to do that it must stay 'relatively' still during the initial part of the swing.

Think of it as if you are coming into impact. Pitch elbow - elbow leading arm - is a fundamental of athletic motion/throws. By keeping the elbow basically in the same place during the initial part of the backswing, you are getting into 'pitch' position and then taking THAT to the top and back through. the 'power package'

The right elbow and throwing with it on a plane board. Simple motion. A throw. An ON PLANE throw of force. The line of compression, the nail you are driving through the ball.

 

[njmp2]

quote:Originally posted by TYORKE1

CHIMP2 , this forum is called golf swing discussion and debate, that means more than one opinion,agree or disagree , but have some class. Golf is still about etticate whether talking about it or playing it. TIM

CHIMP2?

 

[BigBadDonkey]

Your attitude stinks, njmp2... speaking as a neutral, fwiw.

 

[TYORKE1]

Sorry njmp2 , I did cross the line , TIM

 

[drewitgolf]

I was trying to view the Manzella Golf Forum and a fight broke out (again). Who needs the NHL?

 

[njmp2]

quote:Originally posted by BigBadDonkey

Your attitude stinks, njmp2... speaking as a neutral, fwiw.

of course it does. Somebody needs to trash the retarted.

 

[njmp2]

quote:Originally posted by TYORKE1

Sorry njmp2 , I did cross the line , TIM

Funny, I though you found out I was from chicago and chi added to mp did spell chimp. But since it wasn't, keep EdZ, I won't call his insanity out anymore.

 

[EdZ]

quote:Originally posted by bcoak

not worth it. love my above questions answered however.

The right elbow moves back and through on the shaft plane, so yes, you want it in line with the shaft.

 

[EdZ]

quote:Originally posted by njmp2

quote:Originally posted by TYORKE1

Sorry njmp2 , I did cross the line , TIM

Funny, I though you found out I was from chicago and chi added to mp did spell chimp. But since it wasn't, keep EdZ, I won't call his insanity out anymore.

Insanity? interesting considering I agree with the vast majority of TGM

 

[njmp2]

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

quote:Originally posted by njmp2

quote:Originally posted by TYORKE1

Sorry njmp2 , I did cross the line , TIM

Funny, I though you found out I was from chicago and chi added to mp did spell chimp. But since it wasn't, keep EdZ, I won't call his insanity out anymore.

Insanity? interesting considering I agree with the vast majority of TGM

So stop dragging us down with the 2 per cent, thats what makes you insane.

 

[EdZ]

Actually, my intention is to make TGM better, by providing a more accurate and complete description. How is that insane? Especially for one of the core, fundamental sections such as 2K? Start another thread if you wish to continue discussing this, or send me an email.

 

[njmp2]

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

Actually, my intention is to make TGM better, by providing a more accurate and complete description. How is that insane? Especially for one of the core, fundamental sections such as 2K? Start another thread if you wish to continue discussing this, or send me an email.

And it was a failure. You are out of your league. Move on and stop being the butt of everyone's joke.
TGM doesn't need you to improve on it. In fact you should be a TGM free zone from now on.

Doesn't Hibbard or the Austin bunch need an azwipe? Go improve them.

 

[glfnaz]

Ed
I don't post much but read here a lot.
You are disruptive to the threads.
You may not realize it, but you guide threads away from the intended objective that the OP began.
Several people here have asked for more info on the RT Forearm Take-UP.
Including in THIS thread. See Thread Title.
Instead you want to add corrections to TGM and get everyone in arguements.
Start your own thread to have arguements.
I'm really trying to learn something.

 

[wanole]

quote:Originally posted by glfnaz

Ed
I don't post much but read here a lot.
You are disruptive to the threads.
You may not realize it, but you guide threads away from the intended objective that the OP began.
Several people here have asked for more info on the RT Forearm Take-UP.
Including in THIS thread. See Thread Title.
Instead you want to add corrections to TGM and get everyone in arguements.
Start your own thread to have arguements.
I'm really trying to learn something.

Ed's fine when he sticks to the subject. It's just when he tries to bait Brian or Yoda. That gets old.

 

[EdZ]

Which is why I have tried to ask njmp and corky, the only two serious offenders, to stick to debating points, and not attacking me. The questions I ask do relate to the thread topics, but they are avoided and I am attacked (case in point, njmp's last post).

I'm not trying to bait anyone. There are things in TGM that don't add up and I am asking about them. In fact, I am the only one in the last several posts to even stay on topic, the right forearm/elbow.

 

[corky05]

Ed, everyone is addressing you. Leave me out of it. Stop playing victim. Your the instigator. We just get frustrated when you screw up good posts that have some momentum for self serving purposes. Its barely nine in the morning and your trying to drag njmp2 and myself into a fight. Don't talk to me, don't e-mail me anymore. I'm not interested in coming over your house and being your friend. I just want to soak up some knowledge from Yoda and Brian.Everytime you butt in ten people have to correct you. So, just shut your face and open your eyes and ears and you won't have a beef with anyone. Your like one of those nine year old kids that has to get the last word.

 

[njmp2]

Edz, in my last post I replied honestly to your position that you wanted to make TGM better, as I said YOU FAILED, by all consensus. How is that off topic. You are only happy when we continue your bullcrap and any attempt by others to get you to move along with something new and stop trying to bait or hijack a thread, you get pissy.

 

[bagger1rick]

Brian, Once a great thread take a few tangents it seems to die. Hope you will still post a video clip as many of us very intersted in what the right forearm takeaway looks like. A constant reader thanks you.

 

[Ringer]

quote:Originally posted by Ringer

Brian.. would you say the right arm pickup is better suited for hitters and the shoulder turn takeaway is better suited to swingers?

Brian, I don't know if you just missed it or didn't have an answer to it.. but I would like to re-itterate the above question.

 

[Ringer]

In EdZ defence.. njmp brought this one out by saying EdZ was insane. To think EdZ would not say something in response would be "insane".

But you three (I'm including corky) really need to get over it. No one is going to convince the other they are right. Several times I told EdZ exactly the why's and the whats.. all of which he agreed with, but it didn't end there. The reason for that is because success for EdZ would only come if he got some sort of legitimacy from TGM instructors of his oppinion. Merely knowing the way that his view fits in doesn't stave off the craving for more discussion... quite clearly illustrating his goal is not to come to a conclusion, but to have his opponents say he's right.

On the flip side, instead of having an intelligent discussion and explanation with EdZ (except for Yoda's posts) the usual tactics of denegration and derogatory comments of a personal nature were used. No one is ever convinced by such posts. You are just as wrong as EdZ is but for such different reasons. In many ways, YOUR POSTS are much more disruptive than EdZ posts are. If you simply ignored him, there isn't much more he could say... instead you goad him into posting more so that you can again attack him personally. YOU, who do that, are the ones acting childish.

Just remember TGM belongs to everyone. EdZ has just as much right to his opinion that it needs to be changes as you do to the opinion that it shouldn't. It's up to the publishers of the book to say what goes.