TRYING to straighten the right arm early in the downswing.

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Then, all three of them massively, quickly, violently, straighten the dog doo-doo out of their right arms toward impact.

The real question is :
a) Does the golfer consciously trying to straighten his right arm or
b) Does the force of the clubhead motion overcome the force the golfer is using to keep his arm bend, generating quick violently straightening of the right arm or
c) Does the force of the clubhead motion reaches a certain peak value generating a trigger point for the golfer to unconsciously releasing the muscle that kept the right arm bend, so that the force of the clubhead motion is used to straighten the arm

---> and thus creating in those 3 scenarios the exact same diagram!
 

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What Ive noticed is if I start the unwind first I pull the ball left and long! but if I start with the trying to straighten the right arm first I get a straight shot more on target, I also noticed if I try to straighten my right arm more behind me instead of on the side of me I get a draw and more of a fade with straighting the arm more in front of me. Very interesting stuff!
 
It's a feeling for those golfers who tug and reverse tumble. Brian has been saying this for 2+ years and just confirming it with more evidence. It's helped my swing immensely and Kevin Shields and many other students of Brian's I'm sure can attest to it.
 
I feel a lot of this stuff is just too vague. Surely it would have to be defined what you are throwing AND where you are throwing it?
 

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re that MacKensie and Como video, 10+years after seeing Faldo teaching from the top a "rerotation" where the clubhead drops under the (what is now seen as) hand path plane...makes sense! passive torque(s) to help the golfer!
 
Throw what?

I try to throw my arm. Somewhat similar to throwing a football or if I was going to throw a baseball into the ground in front of me or punching something at an angle in front of me. If I don't "throw" or "release" I'm giving up a massive amount of speed in my hands and therefore clubhead speed. Keep your right arm bent, don't flex your trail wrist and don't pronate your trail forearm. You won't hit the ball that far

You probably can't stop some bend, flexion and pronation, but you won't hit a driver past 150 yards if you try to intentionally resist extension, flexion and pronation and just swing with your lead arm. Hogan knew there was a lot of power in the trail hand/wrist/forearm.
 

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Hey Frans, lets substitute a large round weight for the bucket of water and also substitute a rope for the string and we get the hammer throw.
 
Hey Frans, lets substitute a large round weight for the bucket of water and also substitute a rope for the string and we get the hammer throw.

why? Do you throw your club away every time you try to hit a shot like with hammer throwing or do you try to accelerate your club into a circular motion making sure that at impact the speed is at his highest point?
 

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why? Do you throw your club away every time you try to hit a shot like with hammer throwing or do you try to accelerate your club into a circular motion making sure that at impact the speed is at his highest point?

Why a bucket of water on a string? do u swing your club like a bucket of water on a string?
 
Why a bucket of water on a string? do u swing your club like a bucket of water on a string?

yes, the shaft behaves like a string bending and lead/lagging and the head like the bucket filled with water due to its cog rotations during the swing. And like the string/bucket the shaft has little mass in relation to the head. And during impact the head behaves as there is no shaft, again like the bucket on a string....
 

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yes, the shaft behaves like a string bending and lead/lagging and the head like the bucket filled with water due to its cog rotations during the swing. And like the string/bucket the shaft has little mass in relation to the head. And during impact the head behaves as there is no shaft, again like the bucket on a string....
Please dont think Im being an ass, Im thinking a small bucket similar in size as a driver head, better yet how about a driver head and connect a string to the head and connect the other end of the string to a grip and swing that as fast as normal driver swing and see what happens.
 
Please dont think Im being an ass, Im thinking a small bucket similar in size as a driver head, better yet how about a driver head and connect a string to the head and connect the other end of the string to a grip and swing that as fast as normal driver swing and see what happens.

still not throwing and that is what the discussion is about :p
 
yes, the shaft behaves like a string bending and lead/lagging and the head like the bucket filled with water due to its cog rotations during the swing. And like the string/bucket the shaft has little mass in relation to the head. And during impact the head behaves as there is no shaft, again like the bucket on a string....

i just can't believe that the head behaves like there is no shaft. That just can't be possible.
 
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