Yale professor is on to something....

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Axel_WIngert

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Mandrin,
which program are you using?
Mathematica, Maple or is it something else?

Your model- it looks like the shoulder is just going up (rotating around an axis that is parallel to the ground. Is that observation correct?

Thanks, Axel
 
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mandrin

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quote:Originally posted by Axel_WIngert

Mandrin,
which program are you using?
Mathematica, Maple or is it something else?

Your model- it looks like the shoulder is just going up (rotating around an axis that is parallel to the ground. Is that observation correct?

Thanks, Axel
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Mathematica. Not quite, the motions are those as projected onto the swing plane. Hence the rotation of the “shoulders” is around an axis perpendicular this plane.

Axel, don’t read too much into this simple model. Its purpose being simply to demonstrate the possibility of true straight line clubhead motion through impact.
 
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quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

quote:Originally posted by mandrin

circulus in probando
A use of reason in which the premises depends on or is equivalent to the conclusion - "this is used to prove that, and that is used to prove this".

petitio principii
The deduction contains a proposition that assumes the very thing the argument aims to prove; in essence, the proposition is used to prove itself.
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Can you relate this to what I wrote in my previous post?
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Tongzilla, the basic problem is that you seem to believe without any shadow of a doubt all of HK to the last minute detail and therefore tempted to cite as arguments bits and pieces of TGM. Hence, you are defending HK purely with HK, leading to circular reasoning.

Now in a dictionary it happens that when you look for a meaning you end up being referred to your first entry, and hence have not really learned very much. HK, without a shadow of a doubt, especially when considered in the context of his time, is a very clever and intuitive golf genius, but he is not a science genius.
 
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quote:Originally posted by mandrin

quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

quote:Originally posted by mandrin

circulus in probando
A use of reason in which the premises depends on or is equivalent to the conclusion - "this is used to prove that, and that is used to prove this".

petitio principii
The deduction contains a proposition that assumes the very thing the argument aims to prove; in essence, the proposition is used to prove itself.
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Can you relate this to what I wrote in my previous post?
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Tongzilla, the basic problem is that you seem to believe without any shadow of a doubt all of HK to the last minute detail and therefore tempted to cite as arguments bits and pieces of TGM. Hence, you are defending HK purely with HK, leading to circular reasoning.

Now in a dictionary it happens that when you look for a meaning you end up being referred to your first entry, and hence have not really learned very much. HK, without a shadow of a doubt, especially when considered in the context of his time, is a very clever and intuitive golf genius, but he is not a science genius.
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Lets say I believed 100% in the concepts presented in The Golfing Machine. Does that in itself lead to circular reasoning? No. You gotta be more specific than that. Otherwise it's just another ad hominem attack.

That's like saying by using the letters of the alphebet in writing this post, I am using circular reasoning. Or it's like saying that by assuming the First Axiom of Equality (any quantity is equal to itself), which needed in almost all the maths you do everyday, I am using a circular argument.
 
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quote:Originally posted by birdie_man
kissius my assius
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kissius my assius?

Is this the same guy who just told us:

"It's always important how you put yourself forward....

No need to be anything but modest...."?
 
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I knew someone would say that.

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The thing is, he gave me a reason to not like him......

And I said (this is the full quote): "No need to be anything but modest....most of the time."

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Sometimes you have to get on ppl.....I don't like to start trouble....at all.....that's why I sometimes get on people who do.
 
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“I don't like to start trouble....at all.....that's why I sometimes get on people who do.”

Birdie_man, this remind me of those English ladies so vehemently against hunting foxes - to prevent it they killed the poor animals themselves with poison, slow acting and atrociously painful. [V]

The world for some is paved with good intentions . . . at least it appears so from what they say. [:I]
 
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Yes........foxes......

Whatever you say mandrin!

But as they say:

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"You started it!!!"

(P.S. I'm rubber, you're glue)

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And it's true.....I didn't pick any fight.....but I don't take BS either.
 
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quote:Originally posted by mandrin

“I don't like to start trouble....at all.....that's why I sometimes get on people who do.”

Birdie_man, this remind me of those English ladies so vehemently against hunting foxes - to prevent it they killed the poor animals themselves with poison, slow acting and atrociously painful. [V]

The world for some is paved with good intentions . . . at least it appears so from what they say. [:I]
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Now just what kind of mathematical formula led you come out with that pile of crap? Genius, you 'aint. Misinformed, you most certainly are.

BTW: What exactly are your intentions, apart from trying, unsuccessfully, to nit pick HK's work?
 
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Digger, she uses educated hands better than anyone. Nice pic!!
I guess if you were standing in front of her, a little more axis tilt would have been perfect>>>LOL
 
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