Here ya go....
Personally, I think the d-plane is great for understanding basic ball flight laws as they pertain to the ball's initial trajectory. After that? I mean, there isn't much to discuss.
That would be incorrect.
The MOST IMPORTANT CONCEPT as it relates to the D-Plane is that the true 3d trajectory of the clubhead, and 3d direction of the clubface is HOW the D-Plane is formed along with the golf ball. In other words....what makes the ball go where!
This BLOWS UP the notion that "PLANE LINE" is
at all responsible for ball flight.
Even the video "line drawers" think that if the clubhead goes DOWN a plane and back UP a plane, that the ball will go straight with a square clubhead at impact/separation.
It very well could, but it most cases IT WILL NOT!!!!
Also, the TGM book literalist wackos, who like to call me names, who think that Homer was infallible, have to swallow a HUGE LOAD OF FACT:
Plane line is semi-irrelevant to ball flight, and the wacky 11° inside-out alternate line is USELESS unless you are just teaching big ole HOOKS or 6° flat clubhead lie angles.
This caused quite a stir at a seminar this year, and the only reason you haven't heard more from it is I have been taking it easy on them.
No more.
Hey namecallers!
YOU ARE WRONG AGIAN!
Of course, they are lots of times.
I have yet to see anyone comment on how the D-plane is practically useful for the average player. Can someone give an example of this? Like maybe you hit an errant shot and think that one aspect of the D-plane was wrong for the shot you were trying to hit. Or, how it is possible to monitor the different parts of the d-plane as you play.
See the next quote:
Played this weekend, tried to hit a low wedge by putting it back in my stance pulled it left with an on plane swing; didn't "hold it off" through impact.
THUS
D-plane says more forward lean equates to a more inside out ball position which made the ball take off more left that i had anticipated. Dropped another ball and move the ball position up and right at the flag.
And I raise you this one:
You want to aim at the target?
You better learn to have the MINIMUM AMOUNT Of forward lean, or you will pull your hair out trying to hit it straight.
perhaps it is you who is finally getting what is important. The scientific stuff is for the minority of the minority of golfers and will always be. The rest lack an interest becasue they simply don't give a damn.
Sorry, Tourdeep.
I just haven't had the time to MAKE THEM interested.
I have a feeling they will now.
Is Brian than all wrong with below?
“Use your Pivot to snap your Kinetic Chain, and to assist your arms, hands and club with creating the proper "D" Plane for the selected shot.
Everything else is show biz“
Nothing at all.
I kind of like it.
If your opinion if shared by most it is just another very clear signal that the decline of an empire is definitely on its way. Matters of importance are inspired by the mind not by muscles.
This empire isn't going anywhere.
Not as long as I am around.
Science is the basis for EVERYTHING I teach. And I am SO FAR OUT IN FRONT, it is scary.
I just went to the AMF Summit, and I felt like I was the only person in the house that knew what the TRACKMAN man was trying to say.
All I asked for was for someone to say how to use this d-plane idea. Brian's quote is just his definition of what a golf swing should accomplish. It doesn't say how to get there. You know that though. For all your deep understanding of the physics of golf and the d-plane, you just don't have an answer to my question. So whats the point?
Do you have some answers now?
The point I was trying to make was that in most golf discussions, you get the lively debate when there are differing theories/points of view/whatever. D-plane isn't a concept that has a whole lot of conflicting theories. You can't have a debate with only one side represented. That was my theory as to why this thread may have been so quiet.
The debate is coming.
Or they are just giving up.
Played this weekend, tried to hit a low wedge by putting it back in my stance pulled it left with an on plane swing; didn't "hold it off" through impact.
THUS
D-plane says more forward lean equates to a more inside out ball position which made the ball take off more left that i had anticipated. Dropped another ball and move the ball position up and right at the flag.
I played in Pinehurst last week, giving a playing lesson at MID PINES after the AMF Summit.
I hadn't hit a bucket or played a round in nearly two months.
After a 3 hole warm up stage, I played the rest of the way under par—easily—because of the D-Plane.
If you know how to make the ball go from A to B, and why your last ball went from A to C, you can hit lots of good "next shots."
I did.
Let's rock!