A Manzella Experience: with "before" and "after" video

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mrodock said:
Trust comes slowly for me too, I just read a lot of stuff and I liked a lot of what I heard from Brian and I took the plunge! If you want massive results you have to take massive action. Keep doing what you are doing and get the same results. Everyone here has had bad instruction I'd wager. The problem is, most of us do not get a chance to know much of anything about the teacher's methods before we take lessons from them. With instructor's that have well-done forums and offer thoughtful responses to questions it's almost cheating, you are barely taking any chance at all.

Matt
Exactly! Brian's material and forum have totally broken down that barrier. "Almost cheating" - I like it!
 
birdie_man said:
What drills for the sharper hip turn?

I'm just trying to turn those hips 80 degrees as soon as I get the club going back, well, realistically, before I get the club going back because I'm using lagging club. I'll never get near 80 degrees of course.
 
Classie take away

I like your take away, A little drag take away. I think Ben doyle would aprove of that little move! So would The HAT!
 
Hey Matt, was there anything said that helped you in starting to use the turned shoulder plane? Looking at your before video and I have a very similar flat backswing and it (the Turned SHoulder plane) is something that I have a hard time visualizing while standing over a ball at the range.
 
Matt, that's fantastic - both the transformation and the end result. From 3 hours! Incredible. You sure the before ones weren't from a couple of years ago?;) Joking aside, well done, you must be full of optimism now going forward.

Brian - I guess I'm going to have to save up for a transatlantic trip (if they ever sort out this security stuff :( )
 
swing change is impressive. What drills or thought do you use to allow hips to move so much without your arms and club going too flat? Any attempts at hip turn I have made in the past results in club getting too underplane on backswing. How are you preventing this? , which is obvious on down the line shot.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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you need to bend your right arm sooner at the elbow. like doing a bicep curl, it's strange at first because when i get people to do they have a huge bent left arm so you have to give them a little extensor action.

Let them practice it for a bit and all of a sudden BOOM
 
lagging clubhead takeaway

Matt, Brian...

Why was the lagging clubhead takeaway chosen for you?

Nice swing Matt...the changes look awesome. I agree with what's been said earlier, making big swing changes on your own are difficult. I've been trying for several years with books, DVDs, and video. May just have to go see Brian myself.
 

rundmc

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Nice work Matt and BM!

What's your handicap?

Dalton called and he's gonna step to you for not giving him a holla . . .
 
rundmc said:
Nice work Matt and BM!

What's your handicap?

Dalton called and he's gonna step to you for not giving him a holla . . .

The "before" swing yielded a 3.2 index on a good golf course. I had to hit so many balls though to maintain my ballstriking. I couldn't draw a straight plane line on the downswing with the longer clubs. My short game has been significantly better than this year, I was probably hitting it about like a 2 with that swing and did not have nearly enough time for short game.

Distract Dalton with some ladies with mullets run, I don't want to be bothered by his 40 inches of squareness.

Matt
 
bendet3 said:
Hey Matt, was there anything said that helped you in starting to use the turned shoulder plane? Looking at your before video and I have a very similar flat backswing and it (the Turned SHoulder plane) is something that I have a hard time visualizing while standing over a ball at the range.

Ball forward and mid-body hands helps, lagging clubhead takeaway helps, and feeling that the club is starting way outside as I try to take the club back wide (as much like Nicklaus as I can). Also having Brian tell me a dozen times or so that I was still way inside helped. Immediate feedback helped me start to develop a feel for doing it better.
 
dodger said:
swing change is impressive. What drills or thought do you use to allow hips to move so much without your arms and club going too flat? Any attempts at hip turn I have made in the past results in club getting too underplane on backswing. How are you preventing this? , which is obvious on down the line shot.

See my comments above for bendet, also, I was trying to start the swing with the hip turn and turn them as far as possible while still keeping the weight on the inside of the right foot (straightening right knee some).
 
tbarbertab said:
Matt, Brian...

Why was the lagging clubhead takeaway chosen for you?

Nice swing Matt...the changes look awesome. I agree with what's been said earlier, making big swing changes on your own are difficult. I've been trying for several years with books, DVDs, and video. May just have to go see Brian myself.

I think lagging clubhead takeaway was chosen for two predominant reasons, (1) to assist in making a more dynamic transition in which the set is late and there is some speed of the club going back which allows me to bump to the left to initiate the downswing and leave the club at the top to float load. (2) The lagging clubhead takeaway assists me in getting closer to the turned shoulder plane going back.

I'd be interested in hearing if I am on track if Brian sees this.

Matt
 

Jim Kobylinski

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mrodock said:
Hey Jim,

Is this the general idea of the pattern you worked with Brian on?

Matt

At one time, but i've moved on since then. I can just tell that what he has you doing is similar. Gets you more "up" than "in" which is a good thing. Gets rid of the flat takeaway and helps you find the TSP.

The flatter and more around the backswing is the more you'll dip underplane on the downswing and swing too far to the right.
 

rundmc

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mrodock said:
I think lagging clubhead takeaway was chosen for two predominant reasons, (1) to assist in making a more dynamic transition in which the set is late and there is some speed of the club going back which allows me to bump to the left to initiate the downswing and leave the club at the top to float load. (2) The lagging clubhead takeaway assists me in getting closer to the turned shoulder plane going back.

I'd be interested in hearing if I am on track if Brian sees this.

Matt

I think you are on it . . . I have been told that if you go with an early set . . . all you got left to do is hold on . . . but if you wait to load the accumulators later then you got a much better chance of bending up the shaft with clubhead lag . . . which beats the dookie out of holding on for dear life.

LESS WRIST SET
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EQUALS BOWED SHAFT
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Nice motion coconut lotion . . .
 
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