Developing PGA Tour Players
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your $100 is only the MONDAY Q......look at the PDF it say OPEN QUALIFY on it
but cost are
enrty fee
caddie
food
tour van bill
balls/gloves (if not spons)
travel
and some I am forrgetting
plus do you really think a tournament with 1million prizepool is the same cost as your local state golf assoc designated?
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true, true........but the nationwide is still brutal......those course are not your local muni, meaning most people do not know what uniform 3 inch rough looks like and have no clue what a stimp of 11 on greens is like.
THESE GUYS ARE GOOD.........lol
Matt, I have no clue once you get to the Nationwide and you are playing for Guarenteed purses and such. I believe the title sponser puts up the purse. so I am not sure how the fees work..........like I said I will call and find out, unless Google has something.
Now the minis are different cause the entry fee IS THE PURSE, hence the difference.
A friend of mine who played on the NW Tour said typically expenses were around $2000 a week for him. There was an interview with him and he said about the same thing there. I'll link it if I can find it.
The other factor with the NW Tour is that a lot of guys fly because they have to a lot of the times. They also have caddie fees to worry about.
Matt 4-L
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I googled it and couldn't find anything other than the pdf. I understand on the mini tours you are paying bigger fees and really it is not much different than gambling...I was only saying that I could travel and eat for $500 a tournament then add your entry fees on top of that. And that is not really roughing it, it's what the average American calls RVing or camping and I do realize that the pga tour players are probably driving $250,000 buses but the average american is toting a modest travel trailer that cost less than $15,000.
There are several ways to become a Nationwide Tour member or otherwise become eligible to compete in Nationwide Tour events (subject to Nationwide Tour Regulations).
TO BE FULLY EXEMPT:
1. Finish within the top 80 and ties at the annual Qualifying Tournament (top 30 receive their PGA TOUR cards.) The next Number Nearest 50 receive exempt Nationwide Tour cards. Both are eligible to play in Nationwide Tour events.
2. Win an official Nationwide Tour event.
3. Finish 26-60 on prior year Nationwide Tour money list.
TO FILL THE FIELD EACH WEEK:
1. Additional qualifiers from the annual Qualifying Tournament.
2. Be one of the 14 Open Qualifiers.
3. Be one of the four Sponsor Selections.
NATIONWIDE TOUR PERFORMANCE BENEFITS
A. Top 25 Money winners earn exempt membership status on the PGA TOUR for the next year.
B. Finishers 26-40 are exempted into the Finals of the National Qualifying Tournament and are also exempt Nationwide Tour members for the following year. NOTE: Finishers 26-60 on prior year Nationwide Tour Money List are fully exempt.
C. Finishers 41-70 are exempted into the Second Stage of the National Qualifying Tournament.
D. Nationwide Tour Tournament Winners are fully exempt for the remainder of the year and the following year.
NATIONWIDE TOUR OPEN QUALIFYING
An Open Qualifying competition of 18 holes will be held Monday (NOTE: When holidays fall on Monday, Tuesday may apply as noted) of Tournament Week from which the maximum of fourteen scores will gain entry into the Tournament.
Eligible players are amateurs with USGA handicaps of two (2) strokes or less and all professionals, with no limit as to the number of attempts to qualify.
The competition is scheduled and conducted by the PGA Section located in the territory of the Nationwide Tour event. Please refer to the enclosed contact list for requesting information pertinent to the competition.
Entry fee for the competition is $350.00 payable to the PGA Section. (NOTE: The section may also require payment of an administrative fee of not more than $25.00.) If you are successful in winning one of the spots to play in the Tournament, your entry fee will be paid by the section.
We hope this information will be helpful to you. If there are any questions, please contact the Competition Department of the PGA TOUR, 904/285-3700.
cut and paste from the NW site
TO BE FULLY EXEMPT:
1. Finish within the top 80 and ties at the annual Qualifying Tournament (top 30 receive their PGA TOUR cards.) The next Number Nearest 50 receive exempt Nationwide Tour cards. Both are eligible to play in Nationwide Tour events.
2. Win an official Nationwide Tour event.
3. Finish 26-60 on prior year Nationwide Tour money list.
TO FILL THE FIELD EACH WEEK:
1. Additional qualifiers from the annual Qualifying Tournament.
2. Be one of the 14 Open Qualifiers.
3. Be one of the four Sponsor Selections.
NATIONWIDE TOUR PERFORMANCE BENEFITS
A. Top 25 Money winners earn exempt membership status on the PGA TOUR for the next year.
B. Finishers 26-40 are exempted into the Finals of the National Qualifying Tournament and are also exempt Nationwide Tour members for the following year. NOTE: Finishers 26-60 on prior year Nationwide Tour Money List are fully exempt.
C. Finishers 41-70 are exempted into the Second Stage of the National Qualifying Tournament.
D. Nationwide Tour Tournament Winners are fully exempt for the remainder of the year and the following year.
NATIONWIDE TOUR OPEN QUALIFYING
An Open Qualifying competition of 18 holes will be held Monday (NOTE: When holidays fall on Monday, Tuesday may apply as noted) of Tournament Week from which the maximum of fourteen scores will gain entry into the Tournament.
Eligible players are amateurs with USGA handicaps of two (2) strokes or less and all professionals, with no limit as to the number of attempts to qualify.
The competition is scheduled and conducted by the PGA Section located in the territory of the Nationwide Tour event. Please refer to the enclosed contact list for requesting information pertinent to the competition.
Entry fee for the competition is $350.00 payable to the PGA Section. (NOTE: The section may also require payment of an administrative fee of not more than $25.00.) If you are successful in winning one of the spots to play in the Tournament, your entry fee will be paid by the section.
We hope this information will be helpful to you. If there are any questions, please contact the Competition Department of the PGA TOUR, 904/285-3700.
cut and paste from the NW site
not saying that CANT happen, but when you have to drive 800 miles to get to the next town, saying you drive yourself and made the cut, you might not leave the last town till monday morning........
not to mention, caddie fees, balls/gloves (if not spon) tour van cost, and all the things I listed above a few post.........and it adds up BIG and QUICKLY
plus you need to understand lots of these guys are HEAD CASES, they cant travel in a dually and 5th wheel, they just cant, they are too used to the tongue bath they get from everyone around them to "lower" themselves
Matt 4-L
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You would definately need a good wife on your side to help with the driving! Check, atleast I have that one covered.
Here's how it works...
Mini-Tour Golf -
Entry fees make up the purse. The top tours (eGolf, Hooters, Gateway, etc.) all average to a little over $1000 entry fee per event, with membership fees varying from $1000 to $3000. And many events you may not be able to get into unless you've been playing well enough to gain entry. Finish outside the top 30 and you will NOT make enough money to recoup your expenses. The pay out is very top heavy. You cannot make a living playing on mini tours unless you're one of the best. And if you're one of the best you should be moving towards...
The Nationwide Tour -
Congratulations! You have status on the Nationwide Tour. You may have gotten this through Q-School (which is $2500 for pre-qualifying stages and another $2500 for first stage... there are no other fees after that) or Monday qualifying. Many guys will Monday qualify, finish top-25, get into the next event, do the same, and continue to play well enough that come the next reshuffle (where they rank players based on performance) you get exempt into more events with no qualifying required. Expenses come to somewhere between $1500 and $2500 a week between travel (many times schedule restrictions require they fly to events), food, hotels, and caddie fees. Entry fees are minimal comparatively (no more than $350) but the cut is only top 60 of 150 guys. Purses are top-heavy. It is difficult to make a living on the Nationwide Tour, even with "endorsement deals" (which are tiny compared to the PGA Tour).
Mini-Tour Golf -
Entry fees make up the purse. The top tours (eGolf, Hooters, Gateway, etc.) all average to a little over $1000 entry fee per event, with membership fees varying from $1000 to $3000. And many events you may not be able to get into unless you've been playing well enough to gain entry. Finish outside the top 30 and you will NOT make enough money to recoup your expenses. The pay out is very top heavy. You cannot make a living playing on mini tours unless you're one of the best. And if you're one of the best you should be moving towards...
The Nationwide Tour -
Congratulations! You have status on the Nationwide Tour. You may have gotten this through Q-School (which is $2500 for pre-qualifying stages and another $2500 for first stage... there are no other fees after that) or Monday qualifying. Many guys will Monday qualify, finish top-25, get into the next event, do the same, and continue to play well enough that come the next reshuffle (where they rank players based on performance) you get exempt into more events with no qualifying required. Expenses come to somewhere between $1500 and $2500 a week between travel (many times schedule restrictions require they fly to events), food, hotels, and caddie fees. Entry fees are minimal comparatively (no more than $350) but the cut is only top 60 of 150 guys. Purses are top-heavy. It is difficult to make a living on the Nationwide Tour, even with "endorsement deals" (which are tiny compared to the PGA Tour).
No offense man, but you have no clue. Balls and gloves? You think Nationwide guys are expensing their BALLS AND GLOVES on a week-to-week basis? Really?
And what's this about head cases and a tongue bath? You are too much.
Look, most of the guys on the Nationwide Tour have serious money behind them with private sponsors. It's near impossible to play out there without it. They don't live lavish lifestyles like the PGA Tour. They are provided with a nice purse, free equipment, and a chance to move up to the next level. But that's about it.
Holeout, what do you think I have been saying for the last hour?
NO I dont think NW guys pay for balls and gloves...that is why we decided what tour we were talking about NW or hooters ect....but I KNOW mini tour guys that do. But I also know some mini guys that get 4 doz balls and 1 case of gloves per month.
Head cases......yeah it is on EVERY TOUR BRO
Nw guys with HUGE private money.. in fact it is VERY hard to make it on the mini tours without it .....I said that an HOUR ago, welcome to the conversation.
dont come here just re-stating what I have already said and act like you discovereed the world is round.
NO SHIT SHERLOCK............we said and discussed this for 3 pages now, esp the mini tours
cmartingolf
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I don't think so...unless you are packing Ramen in the camper.
I just played in the Club Pro in June (missed the cut), but a caddie is $100 per day on the low end. There's $500 in cash if you miss the cut!
Flight $400 (back of the bus)
Hotel $600 (basic)
Meals $300 (we ain't talking Ruth's Chris)
Caddie $500 (great kid who could beat me)
Misc $100 (parking, etc)
Entry $100
Grats $100
There's $2100 and I'm sure I'm missing something.
I just played in the Club Pro in June (missed the cut), but a caddie is $100 per day on the low end. There's $500 in cash if you miss the cut!
Flight $400 (back of the bus)
Hotel $600 (basic)
Meals $300 (we ain't talking Ruth's Chris)
Caddie $500 (great kid who could beat me)
Misc $100 (parking, etc)
Entry $100
Grats $100
There's $2100 and I'm sure I'm missing something.
Matt 4-L
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I am not saying you can't go through the cash pretty quick...I am just saying if a guy was desperate enough to make a run at it on tour he could shave some of the cost....What ever happened to the guys who would sleep in their cars? I loved that golf channel series on the negro golf league even the pga tour when it was first starting out, are their still players out there that want to make it that desperately?
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Sounds pretty standard.
Taylor Made Paying people 5k to use thier headcovers so Taylor Made can win the driver count put an end to the "want to make it that desperately"
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