Developing PGA Tour Players

[Steve Hale]

The bottom line is if you have enough game to make it on TOUR it matters very little how much money you have. I've seen guys come from next to nothing, working in bagrooms, make a very good living playing golf.In my opinion, as a guy who tried to make it working in bagrooms or waiting tables to come up with entry fees for mini tour events, using the "I don't have money" excuse which is all too prevalent, the bottom line is if you have enough game it really won't matter how much or little money you have.

 

[Richie3Jack]

A little over 10 years ago a friend of mine finished 8th on Hooters Tour money list. According to him he broke even after expenses.



3JACK

 

[softconsult]

Yes, it is pretty clear that in the population is pretty much ignorant when it comes to Economics and would have no chance reading a P&L Statement. So they see the stats for prize money winnings and don't stop to think about what it costs to ferry your butt all over the country trying to succeed.

There's a young guy I have run into several times at the local practice area.
College golfer, has his degree. He plays some of the lesser known mini-tours. One year ago he told me he was surviving. I checked the stats. He had won nothing. Talked to him again a couple of weeks ago. Asked him whether he was still playing the tours. He said yes, and that he was doing fine. Checked, and he is not winning anything. Don't know whether it's ego, or just blind pursuit of a dream. Sort of sad really.

 

[gravity003]

"When it comes to talent heading to the pro level.

The student makes the instructor. The instructor doesn't make the student. You either have it or you don't. An instructor can only activate the talent and hope they want it."


I agree, ever heard the saying "you can lead a horse to water but you carn't make him drink it"

Had a salesman in my sales force use this one day replied that his job (what he gets paid for) is to put salt on his lips and make him thirsty. Salesperson job only starts when customer says no, up till then he is only an order taker.

 

[himey77]

What was the original topic again?

 

[holeout]

Holeout, what do you think I have been saying for the last hour?

NO I dont think NW guys pay for balls and gloves...that is why we decided what tour we were talking about NW or hooters ect....but I KNOW mini tour guys that do. But I also know some mini guys that get 4 doz balls and 1 case of gloves per month.

Head cases......yeah it is on EVERY TOUR BRO

Nw guys with HUGE private money.. in fact it is VERY hard to make it on the mini tours without it .....I said that an HOUR ago, welcome to the conversation.


dont come here just re-stating what I have already said and act like you discovereed the world is round.

Look, I was merely trying to clear up some misconceptions that you and Matt F. have about the costs of mini-tours/NW Tour. He greatly under estimates the cost of playing out there, you greatly exaggerate how much it all costs and how spoiled all the players on the NW Tour are.

Don't start to think you're enlightening me. I play on these tours. I know how much it all costs.

 

[needham]

Look, I was merely trying to clear up some misconceptions that you and Matt F. have about the costs of mini-tours/NW Tour. He greatly under estimates the cost of playing out there, you greatly exaggerate how much it all costs and how spoiled all the players on the NW Tour are.

Don't start to think you're enlightening me. I play on these tours. I know how much it all costs.

I really didnt exaggerate...I said 12-1800 per week.........you said 2200 i think, so I really lowballed it a little...........and the NW/hooters/any tour player(s) I have known were spoiled whiney Pricks...that could not wipe thier own ass....not to mention leaches to the sucker that is backing them....sorry do not mean to lump you in with that bunch.

Beyond that, I really do not want to argue so I will wish you good luck and Hope you make many top 5s!

 

[holeout]

I really didnt exaggerate...I said 12-1800 per week.........you said 2200 i think, so I really lowballed it a little...........and the NW/hooters/any tour player(s) I have known were spoiled whiney Pricks...that could not wipe thier own ass....not to mention leaches to the sucker that is backing them....sorry do not mean to lump you in with that bunch.

Beyond that, I really do not want to argue so I will wish you good luck and Hope you make many top 5s!

Fair enough. I appreciate the support.

For the record, I can wipe my own ass .

 

[dannyc]

I really didnt exaggerate...I said 12-1800 per week.........you said 2200 i think, so I really lowballed it a little...........and the NW/hooters/any tour player(s) I have known were spoiled whiney Pricks...that could not wipe thier own ass....not to mention leaches to the sucker that is backing them....sorry do not mean to lump you in with that bunch.

Beyond that, I really do not want to argue so I will wish you good luck and Hope you make many top 5s!

nice language for a guy that gives tiger a hard time...at least he has 500 large on the line when he swears.

 

[needham]

nice language for a guy that gives tiger a hard time...at least he has 500 large on the line when he swears.

because of the word PRICK?

TO ANYONE THAT TOOK OFFENCE TO MY LANGUAGE I DEEPLY REGRET MY CHOOSEN WORDS, AND UNDERSTAND HOW THEY MAY DAMAGE AND HURT YOUNG AND OLD MINDS AND LIVES.


How bout that DannyC? see if I can do it so can he.