Everybody with access to a MPH gauge....
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SteveT
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You didn't prove or disprove anything because it's not an 'experiment' ... it's a 'demonstration' only.
Perhaps you should inform us what the object of your 'experiment' happens to be.
Hypothesis 1: that single hands on a golf swing will produce same speed as both hands.
Evidence coming in: seems to disprove Hypothesis 1.
Hypothesis 2: that adding power from right hard/arms through non-orthodox right hand grip positions will produce same speed as hands from a "normal" grip.
Evidence coming in : seems to disprove Hypothesis 2.
Evidence coming in: seems to disprove Hypothesis 1.
Hypothesis 2: that adding power from right hard/arms through non-orthodox right hand grip positions will produce same speed as hands from a "normal" grip.
Evidence coming in : seems to disprove Hypothesis 2.
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SteveT
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Hey, dbl ... I saw a one-armed guy hit the ball 250 yards with his only left arm and hand.
Then I saw a one-armed guy hit the ball 260 yards with his only right arm and hand.
Then I saw a two-armed guy hit the ball 300 yards with a reverse hand grip..!!!
Guess that logically blows your 'hypotheses' out of the water ...!!!! :sarcasm:
Then I saw a one-armed guy hit the ball 260 yards with his only right arm and hand.
Then I saw a two-armed guy hit the ball 300 yards with a reverse hand grip..!!!
Guess that logically blows your 'hypotheses' out of the water ...!!!! :sarcasm:
Tom Losinger
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Here are some #'s from three different players.
1.100 1. 97 1. 87
2. 57 2. 68 2. 57
3. 65 3. 73 3. 62
4. 65 4. 76 4. 62
5. 69 5. 73 5. 60
Have fun conjecturing!
1.100 1. 97 1. 87
2. 57 2. 68 2. 57
3. 65 3. 73 3. 62
4. 65 4. 76 4. 62
5. 69 5. 73 5. 60
Have fun conjecturing!
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SteveT
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Clubhead velocity is a reflection of the kinetic energy developed ... i.e. velocity^2 ... nothing more.
If you want to analyze the different swing modes, you must look at them independently.
If you want to analyze the different swing modes, you must look at them independently.
If you're trying to determine which swing mode develops more clubhead speed relative to the others for a particular player, why would you look at them independently as opposed to looking at them comparatively?
It would be difficult not to come to the conclusion, based on the data, that you cannot generate as much speed with one hand as with two. Regardless of which hand. The question BManz is asking, I suppose, is why? Which force cannot be generated with one hand, which can be with two. And even more of the obvious for those of you thinking what's new in all this: is this a force of which we are already aware, and once you become aware of it how can you optimise it. By the way, I hit it over 300yds, with both hands
: is this a force of which we are already aware, and once you become aware of it how can you optimise it. By the way, I hit it over 300yds, with both hands One thing I thought of is that maybe it has something to do with the body's defense mechanisms. There are structures that will limit the amount of force you can produce in order to prevent injury. It could be that the body won't let the pivot generate the same force that it can with two hands on the club in order to prevent injury. It's a thought...
willgolfer
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Let's get some science going on this one!
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SteveT
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... because your lead arm is doing something entirely different than the rear arm .... notice ..??
Sooooo .... how is the kinetic energy affected by something that lashes and something that throws .. and are independent of one another ..??
And how do the arms work together for a normal golfswing .... how is the work shared and in what sequence ..??
I get all that. I'm saying that if the goal is to simply show whether two arms working together generate more speed than either working alone, then what you present isn't an issue. However, if you're talking about how and when the two arms contribute to creating velocity, then what you're saying absolutely applies. We're talking about different things. In my post that you replied to, I was talking more about the what, rather than the why. That was why I asked you the question I did.
That said, I don't know where Brian is going with this. Maybe he'll be discussing both perspectives...
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ffejeff224
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That you can't produce the same amount of power with one arm as with two...
Thought that it might have been more than that...
Think how far that one armed guy could hit the ball with two arms working with the extraordinary pivot he must have.
Hypothesis: If there are pushing and pulling by using both arms in a golf swing, then the club head speed of a golf club will be less with only one arm swinging the club and the club head speed will be greatest while using both arms.
Notice the independent variable is what is being tested and the dependent variable is the data being collected.
Hypothesis: If there are pushing and pulling by using both arms in a golf swing, then the club head speed of a golf club will be less with only one arm swinging the club and the club head speed will be greatest while using both arms.
Notice the independent variable is what is being tested and the dependent variable is the data being collected.
Tom Losinger
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There is no question that this could be an issue/factor...especially if a person has not had much experience swinging with just one arm. (Or maybe they had a previous experience that did not feel so good.)
Late to the party, but here goes - not sure how absolutely accurate this SSR thing i have is, but should work for relative purposes...
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67
72
68
So max distance is achieved using both arms and that "pure swinging" or "pure hitting" can't max out one's power. Could this data also be used to tailor a pattern to a player based on what side they generate the most power from... my right arm (67) was significantly faster than my left arm only (59). That or i need to hit the gym and work on my left lat muscles
88
59
67
72
68
So max distance is achieved using both arms and that "pure swinging" or "pure hitting" can't max out one's power. Could this data also be used to tailor a pattern to a player based on what side they generate the most power from... my right arm (67) was significantly faster than my left arm only (59). That or i need to hit the gym and work on my left lat muscles
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