February '04 - Get in Position to Play Your Best!

[hue]

Brian: Since changing my address position to your mid-body hands I have found that it is much more easy to keep the club on plane on the backstroke than when you have a hands ahead of the ball position. Why is that? Thanks.

 

[EdZ]

Hue - because your right forearm is the spoke..... and it prevents the wrist roll that brings the club inside and off plane - which 'tends' to happen with the hands too far forward at address. If your right palm stays on plane (in feel), you can get away with forward hands, but it is harder to do.

The flip side of that coin is that if your hands get 'too' far back, you will pick it up, and take it outside with a loop - not the worst of faults, as Couples can attest

 

[Brian Manzella]

Hue this reason is that both your right forearm and clubshaft point more closely to the same spot on the plane line.

Forward hands tend to tilt the plane out to right field and cause a inside takeaway.

 

[armourall]

quote:Originally posted by brianman

Hue this reason is that both your right forearm and clubshaft point more closely to the same spot on the plane line.

Forward hands tend to tilt the plane out to right field and cause a inside takeaway.

Brian,

Is the tilting toward right field a result of an improperly aligned forward hands setup, or is there something inherent to this setup (even if done correctly) that will always create a tendency for an inside takeaway? I ask because my takeaway actually seems better if I start with my hands in their impact alignment (using a strong single action grip). I'm constantly doing flashlight drills, and I seem to be tracing the plane line nicely, but I'd like to know if there is some pitfall I should be watching out for.

Thanks.

 

[hue]

Brian: By going through your set up forward lean procedure in your video I have found that the toe of the club sits up more as a result. Does your more bend from the hips set up mean that most clubs are to upright in their lies and need to be flattened to suit your set up? Thanks.

 

[bcoak]

not to start this discussion again, but look at Adam Scott's setup vs. impact position at Redgoats gallery to see/prove Brians point

 

[DivotDelight]

Hi:

I wil try this more forward ball position for the irons this morning, since I have realized I slide to much on the downstroke. One question though. When you state the ball is positioned 2 inhces left of the heel or inside the left shoulder socket, are you measuring to the contact point on the ball where the club is positioned, or to the leftmost edge of the ball? Minor point, but that is a diference of 1 and 1/2 inches.

Thanks

 

[NikeBlades]

Brian,

Just reading this again, after seeing my posture in the mirror at the range today (found that I was not having enough forward lean from the hips)
In your article you do not mention knee flex at all, I assume you just relax the knees enough and don't really think about it, what are you thoughts/ideas about knee flex and how much you should have?
Alex

 

[fogger]

quote:To get into the proper posture and position at address, use a mid-iron and stand erect with the proper grip and golf arms holding the club out in front of you. Separate your feet until the middle of your feet are as wide as the outsides of your shoulders. Your right foot should point straight ahead and your left foot should be turned very slightly outward. Your toes should both be touching the same parallel line. Using your right hand, extended wide from little finger to thumb, put the thumb on your belt buckle (ladies approx. two inches below your belly button) and your pinkie on the butt of the club. Keeping these contact points together, bend from the hip sockets—with your back­ straight—until the club contacts the ground. Then, relax your upper back and neck and look straight out of your eye sockets just in front of the clubhead where the ball would be (Pic below).

Thanks for the post and the pics Brian. After reading your post this morning I practiced this at the range and then during my round. I had one of my best ball striking rounds in some time.

 

[Ultrastick]

I just finished reading "The Four Magic Moves To Winning Golf" by Joe Dante. In it he advocates the "horizontal neck". Interesting. I'm off to try it in the next day or two.
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