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[Jared Willerson]

Olazabel's swing doesn't look awful to me here. A lot of people say this is what my swing looks like.

Why doesn't he hit it straighter this video looks like he has tons of lag, maybe I'm wrong a down the line would probably be better....here is somewhat of a face-on view

http://www.golfswing.com/proswings/olazabel.htm

 

[mcflog]

Olazabel's swing doesn't look awful to me here. A lot of people say this is what my swing looks like.

Why doesn't he hit it straighter this video looks like he has tons of lag, maybe I'm wrong a down the line would probably be better....here is somewhat of a face-on view

http://www.golfswing.com/proswings/olazabel.htm

That's not Ollie's "new" swing. That was several years back.

 

[Jared Willerson]

Oh..

 

[mcflog]

Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYRVFgh0wDI

 

[puttmad]

Ollie's had driviing problems as long as I can remember...Iron play is generally superb...and getting up and down...

 

[mcflog]

I think if his driver swing was as brisk as his iron swing and he just let it "flow" a little more than he does now, he would have won 3 more majors.

 

[Jared Willerson]

Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYRVFgh0wDI

I didn't realize how flat he was. Still looks like he has a lot of lag. Is he underplane?

How can he be that bad of a driver of the ball? He bends the shaft and has tons of lag. Does he swing to far to the right? It kind of looks that way to me.

 

[kshoren05]

Tiger is the most talented golfer I have ever seen or played with. I played with him way back in 1996 twice and behind him in the Pac-10 Tournmanent. The first day of the Pac-10s we played 36 and I watched every shot he hit from tee to green. To make a long story it was the most incredible golf I have ever seen and convinced me to go get a job=) He broke the course record twice in one day (61+65= 126) and was 18 under after the first day. Phil is stud but Tiger is the man. He literally can do anything with a golf ball, although I did see Phil pull that over the back shot which I am sure Tiger can do too.

 

[matt kluck]

Philly Mic to Harmon, Tiger leaves Hank.

Interesting.

Gentlemen:
I played Oakmont CC on Sunday, 4/22, Tiger was there and played 36 holes with Hank Haney. Put one rumor to rest. Batting .500 is pretty good.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Gentlemen:
I played Oakmont CC on Sunday, 4/22, Tiger was there and played 36 holes with Hank Haney. Put one rumor to rest. Batting .500 is pretty good.

I still think there has to be something to it.

This info came from a writer who asked a dear friend of mine what he thought about it.

 

[David Alford]

kshoren, I think quite a few golfers could learn the over the back shot, etc.

What I look for is the golfer who can hit every full swing shot straight. Or every time with a fade or draw. Perhaps there has only been a handful of pros who could do that. Hogan, Moe Norman, Nelson, Trevino...it is the absolutely repeating swing that is so rare.

How much is talent and how much is swing mechanics and how much is superhuman practice remains to be clarified...I personally emphasize swing mechanics...it is the area that offers a true shortcut (which many golfers don't believe exists).

Of course, the bottom line is scoring in tournament play...not denying that.

 

[matt kluck]

I would have to think that the interpretation of the swing that Tiger is trying to emulate is flawed by the interpretatation not the ideology. The #1 golfer in the world should not have as big a problem incorporating the mechanics of "the" swing as he did at the Masters. I believe that Tiger is dictating the learning process and HH is a sounding board, thus the misinterpretation. "Those who dare to teach should never stop learning" and "those who dare to learn should never dictate application". Listen and learn, do not dictate and that is what I se between Tiger and HH. I filmed a lesson between David Leadbetter and Nick Faldo the Wednesday before the 1994 Open at Oakmont and Nick Faldo did not say a word to dispute DL. He listened and learned. TW and HH do not have that type of relationship because TW does all of the talking and HH does all of the okaying. Just my observation of the way the practice session went before the first round.

My best regards to Brian and the rest of the forum members.

MKluck

 

[Dana Dahlquist]

Driver Yips:

What you CALL what happens when you are below plane—and (or) under the sweetspot—and you don't know there IS such a thing.

I was talking with a guy from Texas last week that years ago took some lessons from Hank. He said it was hard for him to get the idea down with Hanks on plane with an open face idea. He said, "how could I square a club with a processed thought of Hands+arms+Body manipulations for impact". I had not much to offer on that one. I said, I am trying to time my own possess for that answer.

Brian, you or someone in TGM should put him in a golf swing intervention program ASAP.

Tom Johnson last week at US Open Qualifying, everyone knows he’s hitting it bad on Tour, but he has great short game.

 

[Spike]

kshoren, I think quite a few golfers could learn the over the back shot, etc.

What I look for is the golfer who can hit every full swing shot straight. Or every time with a fade or draw. Perhaps there has only been a handful of pros who could do that. Hogan, Moe Norman, Nelson, Trevino...it is the absolutely repeating swing that is so rare.

How much is talent and how much is swing mechanics and how much is superhuman practice remains to be clarified...I personally emphasize swing mechanics...it is the area that offers a true shortcut (which many golfers don't believe exists).

Of course, the bottom line is scoring in tournament play...not denying that.

"...true short cut". I think golfers think there are shortcuts but usually not "true"........they, usually, are based in illusion.

David, you said it before and it is profound...."the only shortcut is accurate information." Love it.

 

[Spike]

I would have to think that the interpretation of the swing that Tiger is trying to emulate is flawed by the interpretatation not the ideology. The #1 golfer in the world should not have as big a problem incorporating the mechanics of "the" swing as he did at the Masters. I believe that Tiger is dictating the learning process and HH is a sounding board, thus the misinterpretation. "Those who dare to teach should never stop learning" and "those who dare to learn should never dictate application". Listen and learn, do not dictate and that is what I se between Tiger and HH. I filmed a lesson between David Leadbetter and Nick Faldo the Wednesday before the 1994 Open at Oakmont and Nick Faldo did not say a word to dispute DL. He listened and learned. TW and HH do not have that type of relationship because TW does all of the talking and HH does all of the okaying. Just my observation of the way the practice session went before the first round.

My best regards to Brian and the rest of the forum members.

MKluck

To be blessed with a good student is a teachers dream. To be blessed with a good teacher is a students dream. HH, imo, is doing the best he can with a pupil who's style is so driven that it may take years for him to be able to communicate with him. This is the art form of the teacher, beyond accurate information. After having met HH in Queensland last year......all I can say is....good luck dude... in both areas.