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I have fired a few customers in my day. I just tell them that I am ok if they go somewhere else because they have made it clear we are to incompetant to service them with any success.
I have not done this often but when I have it has given me great satisfaction.
 

Kevin Shields

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Please explain.

Everytime I or someone else hits what they or someone else has described a "push fade" or an "underplane block fade", Trackman always has a path too far left. Its got an underplane feel, but its a dragged outside in swipe with an open face causing the intial direction to the right. Thats why I feel it is tough to be underplane without swinging way left or hitting it fat.
 

Steve Khatib

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Everytime I or someone else hits what they or someone else has described a "push fade" or an "underplane block fade", Trackman always has a path too far left. Its got an underplane feel, but its a dragged outside in swipe with an open face causing the intial direction to the right. Thats why I feel it is tough to be underplane without swinging way left or hitting it fat.

Yes, and vice versa if someone hits a ball that starts left and they thought they pulled it. Of course it was an inside out path with a shutting face.
 
Everytime I or someone else hits what they or someone else has described a "push fade" or an "underplane block fade", Trackman always has a path too far left. Its got an underplane feel, but its a dragged outside in swipe with an open face causing the intial direction to the right. Thats why I feel it is tough to be underplane without swinging way left or hitting it fat.

What was it that "changed the way you look at swings forever", the fact that you felt under plane and push fade but actually you swung too much left with open face?
How you fix it? 1st with the face and start pulling it, and then fix the path or fix the path 1st (swing more to the right) and then face will adjust itself.

Thats why I feel it is tough to be underplane without swinging way left or hitting it fat.

I'm confused, I can't figure out this...


Yes, and vice versa if someone hits a ball that starts left and they thought they pulled it. Of course it was an inside out path with a shutting face.

Now that I can see, the usual "over the top".
 

Kevin Shields

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The fix is to get the club out from underneath the hands so you dont have to drag it left in order to hit the ball before the ground. It changed the way I look at inside out vs. underplane. Its hard to fix the face first if you have an out left arm and a high right forearm. Lots of twist arching of the left wrist.
 

Kevin Shields

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Reverse from out, high hands and high handle/low clubhead and learn to have a more vertical handpath and tumble the clubhead out above or equal to the hands. Without losing pressure to early.
 
Everytime I or someone else hits what they or someone else has described a "push fade" or an "underplane block fade", Trackman always has a path too far left. Its got an underplane feel, but its a dragged outside in swipe with an open face causing the intial direction to the right. Thats why I feel it is tough to be underplane without swinging way left or hitting it fat.

Most interesting thing I have read in a long time.
 
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