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magicmarker

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Let him have a couple less than stellar recruiting classes and he'll have more health issues and need to spend more time with his 'family'.

A few days later you'll see that by 'family' he meant his ESPN family.

FYI, Notre Dame is his real dream job...........

Enjoy the honeymoon. ;)
 
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magicmarker said:
Let him have a couple less than stellar recruiting classes and he'll have more health issues and need to spend more time with his 'family'.

A few days later you'll see that by 'family' he meant his ESPN family.

FYI, Notre Dame is his real dream job...........

Enjoy the honeymoon. ;)
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If Notre Dame is his REAL dream then why did he, when given the choice between ND and UF, not chose ND?

Less than stellar recruiting classes? You MUST be joking. You guys have talent, you just have an idiot for a coach. The bigger issue wasn't recruiting it was all of the turnover in the staff the last 2 years he was there. Urban didn't NEED Tim Tebow, he just needed anything better than John Brantly. I'm not at all worried, but I can tell everyone else is.
 
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For reference:

USATODAY.com - Urban Meyer jilts Notre Dame, heads to Florida


When he lost to a power running game against Alabama in the sec championship with all his speedsters there he saw the writing on the wall.

The sec used to win because it was the fastest conference by far. Like anything that stays on top, they have adapted and instead of having a landslide speed advantage the SEC now seems to have a significant speed/POWER advantage over the other conferences. He didn't ever recruit the power guys and that's why we've looked like a bunch of oregon ducks (think really small and fast/quick) the last couple of years.

Don't get me wrong. Our recruits are still better than the BIG ten's. But in the SEC, that just isn't enough.
 
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A lot of noise considering UF has won two games this year and your favorite squad made that short list.

One against Ohio State (see 2012 Gator Bowl 24-17) and one against Bowling Green yesterday.
 
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It's all good and I love the bantering back and forth. I listen to Paul Finebaum so I completely understand the level of mentality that goes into the SEC.

I don't care what anyone says, beating the conference drum when your team does not even contribute is a joke. I have friend that never even went to Florida, wearing gator gear on Saturday and calls every time the SEC beats a Big10 squad. It's so funny, but it's the same in Ohio. People running around rooting for the buckeyes when they did not even attend OSU. I never called any of my buddies that root for the bulldogs and live in Georgia about the Michigan State game. Why? because I did not attend Michigan State!
 
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For the record I attended UF and was there for Spurriers last year, all of the Zook era, and the first year of Urban Meyers. Got the student loan debt to prove it too.
 
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magicmarker said:
A lot of noise considering UF has won two games this year and your favorite squad made that short list.

One against Ohio State (see 2012 Gator Bowl 24-17) and one against Bowling Green yesterday.
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One against a piss poor Ohio State team that had no direction, no coaching and had just been punched in the gut by the NCAA. I'll let you celebrate that one as long as you want.

Notre Dame may be his dream but he has shown that he will go where he thinks he can win, not where his supposed "dream" is. Besides, there is enough evidence that where he is right now is his dream. I really don't care. If he stays here for 6 years and delivers 2 NC's, I'll thank him for his time in Columbus and wish him well in whatever he decides to do in the future, not cry about how he "left the cupbord bare" (LOL).
 
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Somebody needs to send me a friendly PM not to post after enjoying the recent Fall Seasonal releases accompanied by their old friend Laphraoig
 
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magicmarker said:
For the record I attended UF and was there for Spurriers last year, all of the Zook era, and the first year of Urban Meyers. Got the student loan debt to prove it too.
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It's cool, never said you didn't.

I was not happy with the Urban hire and don't care for him at all. I felt the same way about Tressle. What I do care about is smack'n "the you know what" out of Wisconsin and Michigan and if we can win a national championship all the better. I think the SEC plays by different rules and that's cool. I'm not sure if it's cyclical as far as conference dominance is concerned. Most of the nations population is moving south and has been for a while. The SEC clearly recruits differently than the other conferences by using oversigning/grey shirting, but it's not like they are taking kids from the north. So, clearly the best talent resides in the southern states. Facts are facts.
 
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No worries, just wanted it on the record that I did more than buy the hat. I overpaid the tuition.

There are a lot of really fast athletes down here in the south. Then again, it's also sooooooooo hot year round that fat kids that play outside don't stay fat for long.

The surface of the sun climate makes a big difference.
 
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Lindsey Newman said:
It's all good and I love the bantering back and forth. I listen to Paul Finebaum so I completely understand the level of mentality that goes into the SEC.

I don't care what anyone says, beating the conference drum when your team does not even contribute is a joke. I have friend that never even went to Florida, wearing gator gear on Saturday and calls every time the SEC beats a Big10 squad. It's so funny, but it's the same in Ohio. People running around rooting for the buckeyes when they did not even attend OSU. I never called any of my buddies that root for the bulldogs and live in Georgia about the Michigan State game. Why? because I did not attend Michigan State!
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I apologize in advance for calling you surely, but...

Surely you don't think the only way to be a true fan of a team/school is to have gone their or have a degree from said U. I completely understand the pride and the skin in the game that comes from being an alumni, but I don't think that is the only way to punch a legitimate ticket on the team bus. People who grow up a fan of a school (or just the team) are legit IMO. Heck, I'd even go so far as to say all these universities would be in serious trouble if they didn't have these types of true fans. Many of them choose Old State U based on already being a fan before attending. The stadiums, couches, and bars that fill up every week are done so with an overwhelming majority of non-alumni. Even the millions that graduate from "smaller" schools still have a legitimate rooting interest in pulling for, cheering for, and being obnoxious about their favorite team. The Billion dollar baby that is college football would not exist if it was only supported by alumni. Open your heart and arms and give that gas station attendant wearing the block O hat a great big homey hug, and then show that same appreciation to a someone without an OSU degree. :eek:

As for the whole conference flag waiving... it's pulling for the "family". Who doesn't want the family to do well? Many of our non-contributors in football make up for it in other sports. Now would be a good time to shamelessly remind the forum that the SEC held all 3 major (football, basketball, baseball) national championships at one time this year. How can you not be proud of that.
 
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Mike,

I do appreciate your opinion, but in essence, folks in Kentucky have damn little in common with folks to their south. The same is clearly true of people in Florida. Relation as it were and is truly resides in the fact of familiarity. The teams in conferences have very little in the way of familiarity now. WVU is all of a sudden in the Big 12? Really? Did everyone in the SEC quickly discount their relation to ARKANSAS when they lost to the Buckeyes? (please don't go there as I know you're tempted) hell yes they did.

The super conferences are coming and then what? Missouri and A&M are now SEC. TCU is in the Big 12 now. Leagues are trying to buy ND. Look, I certainly understand rooting for the teams in your conference. I always root for Michigan against others and I still root for UK hoops against anyone. But, I certainly take zero credit for their wins or their losses.
 
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Lindsey Newman said:
Mike,

I do appreciate your opinion, but in essence, folks in Kentucky have damn little in common with folks to their south. The same is clearly true of people in Florida. Relation as it were and is truly resides in the fact of familiarity. The teams in conferences have very little in the way of familiarity now. WVU is all of a sudden in the Big 12? Really? Did everyone in the SEC quickly discount their relation to ARKANSAS when they lost to the Buckeyes? (please don't go there as I know you're tempted) hell yes they did.
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Honestly, no. They took an in house beating for being "the one", but I don't recall disclaimers over it. Once you're in you're in.

The super conferences are coming and then what? Missouri and A&M are now SEC. TCU is in the Big 12 now. Leagues are trying to buy ND. Look, I certainly understand rooting for the teams in your conference. I always root for Michigan against others and I still root for UK hoops against anyone. But, I certainly take zero credit for their wins or their losses.
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Completely agree with that. No credit, just pulling for the family to do well, and hope 1 or 2 have a shot down the stretch.
 
magicmarker

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That........ and we see the players from within 'our' teams conference more on TV and in head to head games with 'our' school for 1-5 years each, we hear their stories, know more about where they are from. Who wouldn't pull for the enemy you're familiar with from your own region over the enemy on the other side of the country you know nothing about. The bond of hatred we have for each other within the conference rivalries is a stronger bond than that of complete indifference. Even if it is based on a real, mutual, hate for the other.

As far as the new teams in the SEC this year. Remember the movie Fight Club? They are the prospects standing outside the house waiting to get in. Will they be let in, of course, but right now they're just too.............
 
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My point is not about rooting rather than claiming an entire league as your's. If your squad isn't the one winning the championships then the only thing your team did was get beat by the team that did win. And in that case, your no different than the team from another conference who gets beat by the champ.
 
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Lindsey Newman said:
My point is not about rooting rather than claiming an entire league as your's. If your squad isn't the one winning the championships then the only thing your team did was get beat by the team that did win. And in that case, your no different than the team from another conference who gets beat by the champ.
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A big difference IMO. If you're in the league, the entire league is yours. You pay for the right with either wins or loses, but you pay for the right. When not directly involved, the bottom teams pull for the top teams, and the top teams pull for the bottom teams. It's an exclusive club being one of the 14, and everyone takes pride in the letters.

Most conferences hang their hopes on just 1 (2 if really lucky) team, and I guess that creates a different mindset. But 5 of our 12 have won it all, and I guess that creates an alternate mindset. No doubt in my mind that if OSU, UM, MSU, Wis, and Iowa all won titles in the past dozen years, a much different mentality would exist with how the conference as a whole would gel.
 
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So, all of these non contributing schools of the SEC (Conference Conference) get to bandwagon the national championship wins. Which gives them (the non contributing teams) the jurisdiction to run smack at schools who would beat them blind? Hardly. If youre a fan of any of the dominate SEC teams then run your smack. But, if you are part of the other group, I don't believe you get to run smack. I give Kentucky fans a slight pass because the CATS contribute to the league on the hardwood.
 
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UT has a strong tradition in football, I go to the UT/UK basketball game every year in Knoxville and actively support the UT golf team. I send kids every year to UGA because of the HOPE scholarship and have been on campus a lot in the past few years and can say the same for Auburn because of their lax in state tuition policies, living in Chattanooga I am in the crossroads of UT, Georgia, Alabama and Auburn and to a lesser extent Ole Miss, Florida and South Carolina. Point being that I am friends and colleagues with graduates of all of these institutions and am happy for them when their team does well. I went to school in Knoxville, but have always been jealous of other campuses, particularly Ole Miss. I pull for all of the SEC because I have friends from all the schools. No more, no Less
 
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