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Brian Manzella
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Brian Manzella
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Wulsy,
I will go create the shot tomorrow and repot back.
I did some math and I came up with some really goofy numbers for that shot.
I'd rather not guess—I don't have to. I own a machine.
I will go create the shot tomorrow and repot back.
I did some math and I came up with some really goofy numbers for that shot.
I'd rather not guess—I don't have to. I own a machine.
mgranato
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Maybe I am completely missing the crux of your question, but I dont have a sense of feel from from watching someone else hit a 7 iron. Maybe I'm in the minority on this.
OK, thanks. I guess the numbers might be weird, but as we all know, the shot is possible and maybe even common.
I would be REALLY REALLY REALLY interesting to see how many different ways there are to create it.
Frans@France
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gear effect is a behaviour of the clubhead during impact. The consequences of gear effect depends on the impact position of the ball and the physical parameters of the clubhead. Like Bulge/roll/COG and it's MOI.
Gear effect influences initial ball flight parameters such as spin and spin axis (and others). Without knowing the head it is impossible to correctly determine the influence of gear effect in that shot. That is why the launch monitor will always refer to the shot as a centre shot.
So if TM would include the option to enter the club design parameters into the software I'm sure that it would be possible to spit out gear information. However you need a few thousand dollars extra buying head survey machines to measure those heads and disassemble them from the shaft. I'm sure every customer would love that procedure
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Todd Dugan
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Sorry Todd.
That won't work either.
Measurement will NEVER WORK on ANY FACE not pointing in exactly the same direction as the PATH with any back of face CofG.
GEAR EFFECT.
GEAR EFFECT.
Sorry, have to disagree, Brian. The clubface portion of the D Plane is the normal to the clubface at the time that "matters" during collision. The fact that the clubface may have twisted from impact to that time that matters has no effect on the formation of the D Plane. It has an effect on the resultant Spin Axis. So, if you can measure the face at the time that matters, then you can determine the "top" of the D Plane. With a planar iron face, anyway. With buldge and roll, you'd have to measure the part of the face that collides with the ball.
Reminds me of a "trick" question.......The spin axis is always perpendicular to the D Plane. True or False?
My clubs do nothing. I have to move them myself. I think I better buy new ones if they do
Frans@France
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There is more then one shot that will generate that ball flights specially because the only data you are providing is straigth at the start and then 20 yards hook.
A spin axis of 10degree will give 7% side deviation : so 200 yards carry with 10D will curve 14 yards.
So I can already give you a infinite number of spin axis values/ carry combination that will result in 20 yards hook.
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Brian Manzella
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My clubs do nothing. I have to move them myself. I think I better buy new ones if they do
Funny.
I'll have a lot of 'em fixed already while your sitting down looking at 3d and video.
My clubs do nothing. I have to move them myself. I think I better buy new ones if they do
How do you know what to do with them without impact feedback? Why not just swing and not hit balls at all!
What about that you read some of my posts? I know exactly what to do with them. I also know how.
175yard carry, flies higher than average for the 35* loft, blade, ch speed 90mph, not big banana hook, more of a gradual curve.
I'd happily settle for 3 possibilities.
So no matter how you use your body to get the impact better. Fine... go on...
Why you think I use FS all the time?
Tom -
Walking away from this technology is foolish! I'll stand up for truth!!! This is all we have to get detailed impact data which is crucial for helping students learn and improve faster.
Trackman is truth about impact. What more do you want? God to come down and explain how he formed the world???
This whole site is filled with Trackman believers. If you don't like it start your own site and leave this one!!!
Walking away from this technology is foolish! I'll stand up for truth!!! This is all we have to get detailed impact data which is crucial for helping students learn and improve faster.
Trackman is truth about impact. What more do you want? God to come down and explain how he formed the world???
This whole site is filled with Trackman believers. If you don't like it start your own site and leave this one!!!
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Frans@France
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what blade? Old original blade where the cog was closer to the heel or the new where the cog is more towards the middle? What is a "higher then average?" who's average?
Kevin Shields
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I'm not sure what anyone is advocating or not, but I find it hard to believe that anybody would go in any other order than what the ball is doing, what the club is doing, and then what the body is doing.
Simple, the ball and club can't do a thing until the body influences them to act. Then and only then can you analyze what happens. Grade school stuff. Take away the human participant and what's left? A ball laying on the ground and a club in a bag and a Trackman just sitting there waiting for something to happen..... waiting....waiting...
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