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Originally posted by EdZ
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Originally posted by holenone
quote:Originally posted by EdZ
Yes, agreed, perhaps I'm not stating the question properly - given that it is on plane - and that we are driving DOWN plane - is it a 'directly down' (90 degrees - down in front of right foot) vs 'directly forward' (straight at the target) vs. somewhere in between - halfway being a 45 degree angle with the ground.
If you were going to put a shaft in the ground on the angle of the endless belt, from top hand position to aiming point, and that shaft was your angle/arc of approach what angle what the shaft make with the ground given a fixed impact hand location, ball position adjusted for club length, and constant angle between the upper left arm and shoulder line/axis tilt at impact.
What is the ON PLANE angle of approach that the hands make in such a case?
Your question seems to refer to the Angle of
Attack (the
Downward Dimension of the Three Dimensional Impact per 2-C-0 and 2-C-1 #2B). However, the term you have used is the Angle of
Approach (the
Forward Dimension per 2-C-0 and 2-C-1 #3). Please confirm you mean Attack Angle or else reiterate Approach Angle.
Yes, my appologies for not knowing all the proper lingo.
The downward angle of attack, although I would also be curious to know the outward angle 'feel' as well, how far 'out to the right' it feels and at what point 'downward' would be considered ideal under the limits I posed.
Thanks Lynn - EZ
[Bold above by Holenone/Yoda.]
I thought so. Therefore, since my original reply to your question ("What is the ideal angle of the Endless Belt?") assumed you were referring to its Angle of Attack, a.k.a. the Delivery Path Attack Angle, it still stands:
"The 'Endless Belt' is the Hands executing their On Plane Straight Line Delivery Path (10-23-A). Therefore, the ideal Angle -- in fact, the
only angle -- of the Endless Belt is the
Plane Angle. And because of its Zero Shift, that Plane Angle is ideally the Turned Shoulder Plane Angle (10-6-B). That Turned Shoulder Plane's absolute degree of angle from the horizontal will vary from Player to Player and from Club to Club. Hence, the absolute angle of the Endless Belt will also vary."
In other words, Plane Angle determines the Angle of Attack. As the 'ideal' Plane Angle steepens (as it must from Long Clubs to Short), so does the ideal Angle of Attack, and so does the ideal Angle of the On Plane Endless Belt.
Your follow-up question above asked that I address the Angle of
Approach ("Outward Feel") as well and imposed three contraints:
1. Constant Left Shoulder to Ball angle;
2. Constant Impact Hands Location;
3. Ball Position adjusted for Clubshaft Length.
Unfortunately, Constraints #1 and #2 are incompatible with #3. That is because Constraint #3 necessitates a
variable Ball Location, and this always produces a change in Contraints #1 and #2. The further Back the Ball is played, the greater is the separation between the Low Point and Impact Point Plane Lines. And the further forward the Ball is played, vice versa. Therefore, as the Ball is moved back toward the Right Foot, this necessarily produces a greater Clubshaft Forward Lean (and corresponding changes in the Left Shoulder to Ball Angle and Impact Fix Hand Location) in order to comply with the In-Line alignments of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (6-B-3-0-1).
So, in answer to your question, the "Outward Feel" will vary with
Ball Location (because that determines the Angle of
Approach). The further back the Ball is played, the more inside-out is the Endless Belt Approach Angle (Delivery Path Approach Angle). The "Downward Feel" will also vary (because the
Plane Angle determines the Angle of
Attack). As the Plane Angle steepens, the more Downward is the Endless Belt Attack Angle (Delivery Path Attack Angle). Study 2-N-0 and 7-23.
And, thats how it always goes once the incomplete, out of context and other spurious arguments have failed.[:I]