Brian Manzella for Golf Magazine, Golf.com & FRONT9 - Tiger's Hand Move with Irons

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For the loons out there....we are talking TORQUE here, not movement in the pic.

But the fact remains, the left wrist, right before impact, is rapidly going toward bent in even the most handle-drag looking swings.

Now we are getting somewhere, despite how it looks the torques all should be the same? So whether its Fred Couples slappy looking video or Tigers very handle draggy looking photo there still was a large negative torque applied.
 
I would agree with this, its hard to quantify the affect but I know myself on a fat shot that I got slo mo it looks like I did not flip it, and I knew it was a very poor shot.


Maybe you should have flipped it a little more and the shot may not have been so poor.
 
Thank goodness we are getting somewhere. Threads of this
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nature were getting pretty old.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Below is a graph of the left wrist movements of a player MORE REVERED than Tiger for his flat left wrist. DO not ask for his name.

Read 'em and weep.




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Brian Manzella

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The above graph is VERY similar to every good player I've seen.

Friggin' 2D parallax video. Ruined more men than cigarettes, whiskey and wild wild women.
 

Brian Manzella

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Asked one of the best teachers in the country if he had EVER seen a PGA Tour player going toward arch through impact.

No.....was the response.
 

Dariusz J.

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"Most succesful players use the hingeing of the left wrist more than they imagine" -- Sir Henry Cotton (long before people are capable actually to measure something useful and, as we can see today, it confirms what he knew).

One cannot cheat physics and anatomy if there are no actions taken to fight against what's natural.

Cheers
 
Brian, do you struggle after your many years of suffering at the hands of Tg M to get that bending? Looked like you arched like a master of tgm "keep it flat" thro impact in that shot you hit in the video.
 
Hi Brian et al,
Reminds me very much of Mike Austin in mho, but I really like what you said. When I do this move, I really hit my irons well, but when I get to the fairway woods and driver, I tend to smother hook them. Any suggestions? Thanks as always.
Jimmy
 

Brian Manzella

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Brian, do you struggle after your many years of suffering at the hands of Tg M to get that bending? Looked like you arched like a master of tgm "keep it flat" thro impact in that shot you hit in the video.

Absolutely.

That was a "one take wonder" shot, but surely still doing what I said, just not nearly enough. I try to add negative torque to every practice ball I hit.

Yesterday, I hit 50 drivers with an $800 tour shaft (quite stiff as well) and never flared one out to the right witha couple of local pros watching, putting some extra pressure on me. One year ago, I couldn't have hit that driver a lick.


The "sustain the flat left wrist" idea is The First Commandment of the faux science golf instruction "religions."


Thankfully, I escaped the penitentiary.
 

Kevin Shields

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Hi Brian et al,
Reminds me very much of Mike Austin in mho, but I really like what you said. When I do this move, I really hit my irons well, but when I get to the fairway woods and driver, I tend to smother hook them. Any suggestions? Thanks as always.
Jimmy

You're probably combining hat move with some roll and inside out path with he longer clubs
 
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