Jamie Lovemark Swing...

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SteveT

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Brian Manzella said:
You won't bait me into giving up any of our new information.
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I hope your "new information" holds up to scientific scrutiny, otherwise it's worthless like TGM.

Btw ... you can't just publish your stuff based on the advice of your scientific friends and declare it scientifically valid. You will have to "prove" it's correct.

(you are wise to get away from imaginary planes and start talking in terms of swing 'paths' for scientific validity.)
 
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Brian Manzella said:
Have to agree....

Our latest research says this is a mismatched shoulder turn/swing plane.
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What is the relationship between the angle on which the shoulders turn on during the swing to the vertical swing plane the club should be swung on if you're looking to "zero out" your numbers? Does this have anything to do with having a good tumble of the shoulders re: Paula Creamer?
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Brian Manzella

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lia41985 said:
What is the relationship between the angle on which the shoulders turn on during the swing to the vertical swing plane the club should be swung on if you're looking to "zero out" your numbers? Does this have anything to do with having a good tumble of the shoulders re: Paula Creamer?
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Paula does it perfect.
 
Steve Greffen

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Brian Manzella said:
Paula does it perfect.
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How can you tell without having her on a 3D measuring machine? How are you measuring (what it is that you won't tell us:)) it exactly? Visually with a 2D video?

I know that the information will come out eventually and I am not beating or baiting that from you, I'm just interested in how you can be sure someone is doing it correctly or not.
 
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Brian Manzella

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How can you tell without having her on a 3D measuring machine? How are you measuring (what it is that you won't tell us:)) it exactly? Visually with a 2D video?

I know that the information will come out eventually and I am not beating or baiting that from you, I'm just interested in how you can be sure someone is doing it correctly or not.
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Scientifically....you absolutely need 3D.

But since we are talking about LARGE movements relationship to EACH OTHER, 2D is decent.

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Steve Greffen

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Brian Manzella said:
Scientifically....you absolutely need 3D.

But since we are talking about LARGE movements relationship to EACH OTHER, 2D is decent.

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Ok thanks Brian. Now what does she do perfect? Move her shoulders? What Lia said or what you have found with your research that I won't ask you to divulge?;)

Steve
 
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Brian Manzella

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Ok thanks Brian. Now what does she do perfect? Move her shoulders? What Lia said or what you have found with your research that I won't ask you to divulge?;)

Steve
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Her shoulders—on the downswing, match her eventual sweetspot path, way better than Lovemark.
 
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alexandjacob

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paula

paula creamer has done a lot of work in Bradenton right next door to Sarasota

i was there 1 day a while back..........standing on the range about 20 feet from her

i watched her practice etc...........i will say this she is one of the most gracious, kind, and REAL people

you will ever meet.....i didn't realize the cart she had was about 5 feet from me. when she was ready to

leave she walked by and quick smile and a hi how are you?? never met her before.........i said good

and yourself??? she said a bit tired..........she extended her hand and said i am paula creamer....

great lady


aj
 
rcw

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Brian are you referring to the way her right shoulder moves more level and to the left, rather than Lovemarks which stays back and moves "down plane" for a long time?
 
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ScottRob

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Can anyone speculate as to what here angle of attack was. It appear to me that she was cutting left big time. Is that indicative of a downward attack angle, or just a super flat VSP? I am not a swing guru so please do not hammer me! :D
 
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SteveT said:
I hope your "new information" holds up to scientific scrutiny, otherwise it's worthless like TGM.

Btw ... you can't just publish your stuff based on the advice of your scientific friends and declare it scientifically valid. You will have to "prove" it's correct.

(you are wise to get away from imaginary planes and start talking in terms of swing 'paths' for scientific validity.)
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Thats a great point, there has to be backup to anything, saying it science does not make it so.
 
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