Brian Manzella
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If your left knee is bad, you need to learn to get on and stay on your right leg longer.
Don't you think?
Don't you think?
O'Hair leaves swing coach Foley - Brian Manzella response p4
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Virtuoso
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Amen, brother.
Is it conceivable that Tiger might want to have another surgery performed on his knee?
faux_maestro
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I have a hard time believing this. Has everyone forgotten how hard he would grind even when he was playing badly, before the hydrant? Come on.
Naw, that makes too much sense and is too easy to do. He needs a whole swing overhaul
You would have to teach a method that allows "some" movement to the right for that to happen. Hmmmm. It's all starting to make sense now...the young guns on the PGA Tour saw Tiger's kryptonite (other than Waffle House waitresses) and introduced him to a teacher that convinced him that pivoting around his bum knee was "the secret."
Hunter Mahan is an evil genius.
Hey, a bum knee is no fun at all. I just had my knee scoped six weeks ago and was limping all around the golf course up until my surgery, so I have no doubt Tiger is hurting. Luckily my surgery went very well and I played golf 11 days after my surgery.
I've always admired Tiger for his grit and determination, I think no one has shown a greater desire to win than Tiger. It just seems to be a little trend with him that when he's hurt and playing badly, he doesn't seem to grind like when he's hurt and playing well. This is two years in a row he's quit in this tournament, but he doesn't quit in the US Open when he's in the hunt.
You start to wonder, if he had shot 33 on the front 9 today instead of 42, would he have finished the round. Just speculating, only he knows.
I've always admired Tiger for his grit and determination, I think no one has shown a greater desire to win than Tiger. It just seems to be a little trend with him that when he's hurt and playing badly, he doesn't seem to grind like when he's hurt and playing well. This is two years in a row he's quit in this tournament, but he doesn't quit in the US Open when he's in the hunt.
You start to wonder, if he had shot 33 on the front 9 today instead of 42, would he have finished the round. Just speculating, only he knows.
Not only would he had finished, he would have given an interview to anyone who would listen.
I actually thought something similar to this earlier. If you have a bum left knee, why would you utilize a swing that puts most of the pressure left?
Brian Manzella
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I am absolutely sure Tiger can regain his form, and be the best player in the world again.
Maybe he will with Sean, maybe without.
But Tiger WILL be back.
Maybe he will with Sean, maybe without.
But Tiger WILL be back.
To question this man's heart is ridiculous. He is one of the top 3 athletes of all-time. He dominated a very difficult sport to dominate for over 10 years. He never choked and always worked very hard to be the best. We won't see another like him. I've always enjoyed your post's mgranato, but this one makes me think you should cut in front of the Scarecrow.
The US Open on one leg was different.He knew the full extent of his injury and although doctors told him not to play,they also told him he would not do further damage if he did play.He was going to get operated on whether he played or not.Playing with that kind of pain shows tremendous heart in my opinion.
I also agree that he needs to get away from this lean on the left leg swing.I don't believe this injury was just an accident.He needs to stay more behind the ball during the whole swing and he can easily be succesful doing this with his trigger delay.
I also agree that he needs to get away from this lean on the left leg swing.I don't believe this injury was just an accident.He needs to stay more behind the ball during the whole swing and he can easily be succesful doing this with his trigger delay.
A change of heart? Not too long ago you were claiming that Woodsy could master any swing, including Foley's?
Pretty obvious from this interview that Foley is a Manzella Forum user.
mgranato
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If this was October of 2009, you would be absolutely correct. But it isn't. He has done plenty in the last year in a half to raise questions about his desire, his decision making process, and his ability.
All 100% correct, except for using the wrong verb in the first sentence. Today he is none of those things. He has learned to choke, and he has learned to quit. What Tiger was is set in stone, legendary accomplishments. Just let me know when that guy shows up again.
Chances are certainly against it, but did you ever think you'd see one like him?
No problem. I don't understand why some of his biggest fans/supporters (not saying you are or aren't one) don't expect more of him. IMO, it is a perfectly legit argument to talk about Tiger now versus then. He's not the same mentally, not the same physically, not the same determination, not the same spiritually, not the same financially, etc, etc. No one would question his heart pre 2010 because his actions didn't allow it. Can you honestly say that is still the case? Is it unfair to fully recognize the brilliance of what he was, while fully recognizing what he currently is?
TBall raised a good question, if he shoots 33 instead of 42, do you think he's still in the event?
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Brian Manzella
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I sure wish I had a good face on and DTL from this week......
Tiger will regain his form?
What is his form should be the question he hasn't shown 2 consective days of form in the last yr!
He will win again?
Probably the odds are with him Mentally still the toughest player and has all the shot making ability but playin on a bad knee hmmm all the surgery in the world dosen't fix it.It didn;t fix the first operation?
Fear Factor?
None of the players fear him and the talent keeps coming from all parts of the world.
Foley's the answer?
Until Tiger learns to keep a Driver on this planet no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is his form should be the question he hasn't shown 2 consective days of form in the last yr!
He will win again?
Probably the odds are with him Mentally still the toughest player and has all the shot making ability but playin on a bad knee hmmm all the surgery in the world dosen't fix it.It didn;t fix the first operation?
Fear Factor?
None of the players fear him and the talent keeps coming from all parts of the world.
Foley's the answer?
Until Tiger learns to keep a Driver on this planet no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oldpro
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I agree with everything you stated Mr. G... I also believe he plays without a limp if he shot 33.
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