The Release w/Brian Manzella & Michael Jacobs
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Lindsey,
How does the direction of the club at the top of the backswing (parallel to the target line, laid off or across the line) affect the first move down if the hands push away from the target line as opposed to just dropping more vertically? I like your analogy of the hands pulling the shaft and clubhead like a trailor. I wasnt sure if you had put much thought into it yet.
How does the direction of the club at the top of the backswing (parallel to the target line, laid off or across the line) affect the first move down if the hands push away from the target line as opposed to just dropping more vertically? I like your analogy of the hands pulling the shaft and clubhead like a trailor. I wasnt sure if you had put much thought into it yet.
magicmarker
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I think it has less to do with what people are saying and more to do with what professional golfers are doing.
It's just a fact that this is how they are stressing the shaft at impact.
It takes a misconception about the golf swing and dismantles it by looking at observable data that is now becoming available.
Befuddling that some on the forum would rather stick to what they read in the past and say that the ones doing the actual leg work are "crying wolf"
Do you really think that there have been no scientific discoveries and breakthroughs as our technological ability to observe and record data has improved?
c'mon man
It's just a fact that this is how they are stressing the shaft at impact.
It takes a misconception about the golf swing and dismantles it by looking at observable data that is now becoming available.
Befuddling that some on the forum would rather stick to what they read in the past and say that the ones doing the actual leg work are "crying wolf"
Do you really think that there have been no scientific discoveries and breakthroughs as our technological ability to observe and record data has improved?
c'mon man
Little better view of Goosen doing it here.
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Lindsey Newman
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One of the things I really like about what Brian and team have found (in their research) is that it coincides with the verticality needed to control the shaft from whatever position, it is, at the top. If you strive to obtain low point earlier with the hand path, you certainly would not go "out".
Ultimately, the thing about the position of the shaft at the top (whether across, parallel or laid off) is how you direct the initial torque at start down. We have all read and been told about, as Hebron would put it, "the tiniest move in golf". The hands move backward and away from the target and target line in the transition. This is very similar to the latest manzellian findings. The beauty of all of this that Brian and team are finally getting and sharing THE FULL DETAIL. The great thing about this move is that it will help regulate the shaft angle from wherever it is aligned at the top.
Now, closing the gap and tossing the clubhead still resembles pulling a trailer. To throw anything you had to have an initial pull.
This sequence is critical for me. Getting back to the left has to happen first. After that I can really get after it with the throw into impact. I'm seeing high super long fades with the max swing. Easy 145 yard PWs and the longest carry I've ever had on the driver. Ridiculously long balls.
I've also noticed that as the shaft plane gets steeper with the shorter clubs then I adjust my left shoulder pull accordingly and vice versa with the longer.
grahler
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Look at Keegan Bradley down the line view he has a nice helicopter move of the shaft-he's not using the plane you might think looking at reg speed.
Transition-from top its like a weightlessness...
Would anyone agree that weightlessness from top down would be a good feel with using the shaft correctly?
Transition-from top its like a weightlessness...
Would anyone agree that weightlessness from top down would be a good feel with using the shaft correctly?
Affirmative. Bobby Jones, On Golf: "The proper start down from the top position I have described is in the direction in which the grip end of the shaft is pointing".
Lindsey Newman
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One of my favorite instructional titles...
Brian Manzella
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more golfers...
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Seen this example by a poster on another site, thought it was perfect. The poster says the guy in the video doesn't even do what he says or demonstrates with his invention, he actually does exactly what M.J. has shown us about the release. If you can stop it at the right place you can see it plain as day. This is a device that is promoted for the opposite of the release that M.J. has shown. It's more than funny, Real vs. Feel to the Max.
300 Yards Without Swinging Your Arms - YouTube
300 Yards Without Swinging Your Arms - YouTube
Brian, I'm IN of course. Always been a big fan AND benficiary of your work. You have contributed much to the world of golf instruction, unlike many others who are just full of hot air.
A question for you: are you in a position to say how much rotation about the shaft (twisting) is taking place during the shaft's rotation which you show in your video? Is it 1) the same amount and the same direction in all cases, or is it 2) differing amounts and the same direction, or 3) differing amounts and differing directions?
A question for you: are you in a position to say how much rotation about the shaft (twisting) is taking place during the shaft's rotation which you show in your video? Is it 1) the same amount and the same direction in all cases, or is it 2) differing amounts and the same direction, or 3) differing amounts and differing directions?
GREG NORMAN SLOW MOTION 7TH TURNBERRY OPEN 2009 - YouTube
When I watch Greg Norman swing the driver, I can see how he makes no effort whatsoever to retain any angle as the clubhead catches up to his hands at impact and passes them so fluidly through into his follow through. He also has amazing width in his BS and DS. I can see why he was the best driver in the world for a very long time, very high, very long and very straight.
When I see myself hit drivers on video, I see a feeble attempt at holding the angle and some major handle dragging through impact. I can see why I am one of the worst drivers in the world, very short, very low and very crooked.
When I watch Greg Norman swing the driver, I can see how he makes no effort whatsoever to retain any angle as the clubhead catches up to his hands at impact and passes them so fluidly through into his follow through. He also has amazing width in his BS and DS. I can see why he was the best driver in the world for a very long time, very high, very long and very straight.
When I see myself hit drivers on video, I see a feeble attempt at holding the angle and some major handle dragging through impact. I can see why I am one of the worst drivers in the world, very short, very low and very crooked.
Dariusz J.
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Very good video with all these greats. I bet a lot of watchers sit down and think - wait, their releases look almost exactly as mine before I started to try to correct it which makes me now play bigger scores and spend thousands of hours on the range in frustration (instead playing and enjoying golf) LOL.
BTW, not that long time ago I presented pictures of Bill Mehlhorn and his slap-hinge release (even more blashphemous for TGM "experts" ROFL) and a lot shook heads in disbelief here.
The case is simple - if the wrists do not break after impact there is no natural proper release of the whole kinetic chain. Wrists are hinges and mechanical attribute of a hinge is to hinge.
Cheers
BTW, not that long time ago I presented pictures of Bill Mehlhorn and his slap-hinge release (even more blashphemous for TGM "experts" ROFL) and a lot shook heads in disbelief here.
The case is simple - if the wrists do not break after impact there is no natural proper release of the whole kinetic chain. Wrists are hinges and mechanical attribute of a hinge is to hinge.
Cheers
Brian Manzella
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I agree.
And the "case" was made, won, closed, slam dunked, and back-flipped into the end zone when MJ put up the %'s of FATS.
The amount of shaft bend at 1:20......strongly suggests there must be some ATS or throwing action going on....!!!!...?????
Dariusz J.
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Thanks. I am trying to do my utmost, unfortunately, sometimes without desirable results. Forget Polish, it's a horribly difficult language (not in Hungarian league though LOL) - maybe that's why a Pole invented Esperanto LOL.
Cheers
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