Here is where I am going to have a problem... I have a dead straight left arm - always have. Any time I try to not have it rigid, it just feels awful and nothing good happens. Just don't know how I can make this work, which is frustrating, because the science makes absolute sense.
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Kevin Shields
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I finally feel redemption for being called a flipper. I always knew every decent player "flicked" it and had the left wrist clearly bent immediately after impact. I guess I couldve prepared my flick a little better however, when I was young.
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Phil Rosenbaum
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Nicely done. Hope Lisa doesnt see the marks on her kitchen floor.
Brian Manzella
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If you took 100 random golfers to the range, videoed the before form face on, and taught them the full rotation around the coupling point "flick," as a group they would wound up with MORE so-called "lag" in the after video.
Mike Jacobs made a good point to me on the phone tonight: What does the soccer kicker do? Does he purposely lead with the knee? Does he drag his foot like a wet mop?
To quote a guy would loves to quote others:
Pu-leeze.
Mike Jacobs made a good point to me on the phone tonight: What does the soccer kicker do? Does he purposely lead with the knee? Does he drag his foot like a wet mop?
To quote a guy would loves to quote others:
Pu-leeze.
Jared Willerson
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I enjoyed the most recent video by BriManz. That should clear up a lot of different thoughts people are having about what rotation about the coupling point is and is not.
What is significant is the tidbit on tugging the left arm. Very key and turned the golf swing completely upside down for me and made lining up the shaft at impact with no lag pressure much easier. I personally am having a lot of fun with this new information.
What is significant is the tidbit on tugging the left arm. Very key and turned the golf swing completely upside down for me and made lining up the shaft at impact with no lag pressure much easier. I personally am having a lot of fun with this new information.
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Mike O,
I meant in reference to the data MJ posted earlier in here. (no lag pressure at point of impact in scratchies) I have a lot of faith in their research so I have a tendency to accept it quickly. Thank you though man.
Not sure I will have more impact lag pressure w this new stuff (even based on it lowering my handicap, which it may), though I do not know. I think I will have more lag angle in the ds pre-impact, as is suggested here. Feels like it too, so far. Feels neat, fast.
As for no lag pressure at impact, I tried the idea, in my trials. It really did not work to try for it. Worst of the day maybe! Egad!!
Good to get a distinct 'no' though, yes?
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Brian..
Thank you. Just hit wedges today in the yard but did pretty well I would say. Feels good to swing the hands. "Accelerate the club" as desired. Head, face, & whatever. Where & when. Still working & sorting this but so far so good.
Thanks Mikes & Brian. Needed the "boost".
Flick & pick. (not snot, boogs)
I meant in reference to the data MJ posted earlier in here. (no lag pressure at point of impact in scratchies) I have a lot of faith in their research so I have a tendency to accept it quickly. Thank you though man.
Not sure I will have more impact lag pressure w this new stuff (even based on it lowering my handicap, which it may), though I do not know. I think I will have more lag angle in the ds pre-impact, as is suggested here. Feels like it too, so far. Feels neat, fast.
As for no lag pressure at impact, I tried the idea, in my trials. It really did not work to try for it. Worst of the day maybe! Egad!!
Good to get a distinct 'no' though, yes?..
Brian..
Thank you. Just hit wedges today in the yard but did pretty well I would say. Feels good to swing the hands. "Accelerate the club" as desired. Head, face, & whatever. Where & when. Still working & sorting this but so far so good.
Thanks Mikes & Brian. Needed the "boost".
Flick & pick. (not snot, boogs)
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birdie_man
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Jared said:
Jared, me too man. I have been in need of a bombshell, or a few. Should be fun working w this new stuff, esp if it works.
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Freddie Couples said: "I figured out when I was younger that the faster I got my hands on my left shoulder, the further I hit it."
Hogan: "Reverse every natural instinct."
Makes sense if your nat instinct is to run the hands at the ball?
"I open it as much as I can in the bs & close it as much as I can in the ds."
Looks like he is "closing the gap" in his famous lesson at the end of the Swwog video of his match w Snead, eh? Wonder if he tried for the ds hip slide normally.
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Brian or Mike,
When do you start accelerating the head? How possible is it that Hogan did it early? Or any golfer who doesn't wait so long for the bs to end. (?)
How does this new stuff, & re-cocking post-impact, tie into the flat spot in the ds?
How do you know this is key information for yippers?
If the hands are moving up & in at impact, & there is less forward lean, it is a double "swing lefter", yes?
Thanks again.
I have made fun of Flick for teaching flick-ING. (per se) Who knew? Wonder if he does even. Would be interesting to re-examine what he has said about it. He knew it worked anyway though, I suppose.
I feel a little dumb now for being so critical of him. He seems to have earned Nicklaus' endorsement, for some reason. Guess it is worth something. Who knew?
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I never think about it... it has been like that as long as I remember.
Shocked to hear MJ referenced soccer as a tough guy hockey fan
, but i suppose he'll do anything for golf and to help us learn. He has been polite about it, but i can tell he thinks my love of that game is goofy (even have a custom MUFC headcover on the putter).In all seriousness though there are many parallels between the motions and the best strikers of the soccer ball appear to have force normal to their foot at impact and even a "hop"/jump...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmPqmz2iK7c
So, you guys have helped my golf game and my soccer coaching. Want to teach kids how to bend the ball... D-plane baby!
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1. Based on video, is the coupling point located somewhere between the middle knuckle on the left thumb and the knuckle at the bottom of the left thumb? With anything besides a 10-finger grip, it's tough to pinpoint where the hands meet on the handle.
2. What's the best way to think about the coupling point release during the swing? In trying to "close the gap" with driver on the golf course, I have hit some blocks. Would it be better just to think of letting the hands and clubhead release through impact? In other words, stop thinking about a flat left wrist and just let everything "go" or "release" near the bottom of the swing.
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Brian Manzella
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1. Just move the club back and forth on a horizontal plane, keeping the hands reactively in the same spot. The point that appears not to move is it.
2. All I do is feel like I get the clubhead and arms started early without tugging, and bend my left wrist through impact as back-on-itself as I can. Definitely a freewheeling thing.
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