The Release w/Brian Manzella & Michael Jacobs

[Mike O]

"But good players have no lag pressure at impact?"
Birdie Man - It's a mistake to make a blanket statement that "good players have no lag pressure at impact".
Now, hey maybe some don't have any at the right forefinger, or hands, or the upper arm against the chest or all of them at once, however, there are plenty that do. Now, depending how you envision and implement some of the various perceived ideas - you may even have way more lag pressure than you had before.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Start with the following.....

1. All force normal to the club at impact.

2. Low point of hands prior to low point of club.

3. 75% of all the work in the PIVOT goes into moving the pivot.



Whatever you came up with know this would be pretty good.

 

[Clearwater]

Personally, I think it's great that your team is studying the swing with detail and with the use of scientists. Hope all is going well on "the island".

 

[Brian Manzella]

My personal experiment with the new release is going well.

Took some video today it is much better.

Putting up mid 80's in TrackMan 10ball test with 4 irons and 7 irons with a couple of poor shots each time.

Long way to go—but it will be well worth it.

#1 thing to watch>>>>>>Don't TUG the left arm in transition.

 

[mgranato]

If the shoulders start moving early, will that kill the move?

 

[Lindsey Newman]

Anything pulling towards the target, the ball or target line will make things more difficult. If you watch closely, from face on, the hand path is going away from the target at start down.

 

[mgranato]

I've always had some carry, but it doesn't sound like that is optimal with the CP starting away from the target at start down. Am I understanding right?

 

[ekennedy]

I think it depends on your swing type (NHA in particular) and how far left you intend on swinging through impact. So long as you stay wide (or wider) with the carry on the DS you should be fine. I find that if the shoulders open too soon, its difficult to remain wide as the club tends to collapse into you.

 

[Lindsey Newman]

I've always had some carry, but it doesn't sound like that is optimal with the CP starting away from the target at start down. Am I understanding right?

You can have "carry" pre-start down to align the path you want to swing on, but the release dynamics still operate the same.

 

[Shot Limit]

Where else can the hands go from the top of full backswing? I'm having a little trouble wrapping my head around this concept and I may be totally misunderstanding it. Can anyone refer me to any video of hands that move toward the target/ball/target line during the transition? In other words the oposite of what's desired?

 

[Brian Manzella]

Neil,

Obviously the hands go away from the target from start down.

But exactly where, and with how much tug is HUGE.

 

[mgranato]

You can have "carry" pre-start down to align the path you want to swing on, but the release dynamics still operate the same.

Wow, so much to do in so little time. Then again, feeling like there's not enough time might be a problem in itself.

 

[mgranato]

Where else can the hands go from the top of full backswing? I'm having a little trouble wrapping my head around this concept and I may be totally misunderstanding it. Can anyone refer me to any video of hands that move toward the target/ball/target line during the transition? In other words the oposite of what's desired?

I've been told before to take me hands from the top "on a straight line down to the ball". Then on the next shot, I was told to do it again only this time without digging a crater.

 

[Lindsey Newman]

Wow, so much to do in so little time. Then again, feeling like there's not enough time might be a problem in itself.

So true my man. I guess that's why a good backswing and position at the top is important.

 

[bgoodyear]

I've been told before to take me hands from the top "on a straight line down to the ball". Then on the next shot, I was told to do it again only this time without digging a crater.

I think alot of us can relate to this.

This stuff has completely transformed my game in a couple of weeks.

 

[Michael Jacobs]

Is this "new" move anything like the idea Jimmy Ballard had when he said at the top to "spring the shaft" into the ball?

No

 

[dbl]

Michael or Brian, my question in post 712 might have been overlooked.

One minor reason I posted it was to give you guys a chance to counteract some bad reviews that may come (or are). A yellow book disciple disciple who posted in this thread a ways back, very critical of this idea, has posted at a general golf forum a link to this thread and offered readers a chance to laugh at these ideas. Most people's quick review was this was an early release at the top leading to no power, or flipping. I was hoping you guys would post how closing the gap differs from a bad application of some of these ideas and what is the dividing point. tia.

 

[Matt Bryda]

Michael or Brian, my question in post 712 might have been overlooked.

One minor reason I posted it was to give you guys a chance to counteract some bad reviews that may come (or are). A yellow book disciple disciple who posted in this thread a ways back, very critical of this idea, has posted at a general golf forum a link to this thread and offered readers a chance to laugh at these ideas. Most people's quick review was this was an early release at the top leading to no power, or flipping. I was hoping you guys would post how closing the gap differs from a bad application of some of these ideas and what is the dividing point. tia.

SEE pg. 17
post #168

 

[BIGBALL]

Dschultz- Its videos like that that made me want to become a golf professional. Not only was the information correct and simple, but he nearly porked her at the 5:00 mark.

Thanks alot - I just spit out my lemonade

 

[dbl]

Thanks Matt (post 740). I guess i can live with that. Its pretty close: early release golfer has hands and clubhead traveling at same speed - bad and wrong.
Flip accusation - I guess is saying flw imperative is unnecessary and that the proper hand usage shows no FATS in the impact interval. Not sure this speaks to the ridiculed bent left wrist at impact, but if one gets good impact conditions and ball flight - who cares? Also, to me, perhaps the upward movement of shoulder and hands may mitigate, so again it comes down to errors in performance leading to the bad impacts.