Brian Manzella
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Most important and best post in the last few days.
The Release w/Brian Manzella & Michael Jacobs
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Most important and best post in the last few days.
Adam Scott:
One of the biggest mistakes is watching something from that position, where decrease of rotation speed and many other forces are effecting to the club. Even few inches after impact we something opposite happens that what player is doing.
birly-shirly
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Jeffy - do you think that the lag causes the speed, or does the speed maybe cause the lag?
Maybe if Westwood had the handspeed that JB has - his clubhead would lag too.
jeffy
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Looks like you are a few years out of date:
The man who made Westwood swap chocolates for chin-ups - Golf, Sport - The Independent
A few highlights:
"The key for Lee was generating power in both the upper and lower body," said McGregor. "So he embarked on a lot of Olympic-type lifting. He is 'power-cleaning' more than 180 pounds and he is 'power-squatting' maybe twice that much. It's all about replicating the explosive effort Lee wants to make in his swing."
Although McGregor is constantly updating the training schedule, there are some ever-present exercises which included rotational squatting on "wobble cushions". The typical three-hour session sees Westwood start off with 30 minutes of cardiovascular, warm-up exercises; then an hour or so of the heavy stuff, then work on whichever specific issues he might have. This might involve dumbbell work to strengthen his wrists or more recently work to the ruptured calf muscle which has blighted the middle of his season. Rather incredibly, on his "weeks off" Westwood will complete this arduous schedule daily.
"Yes, in those weeks at home he probably will be spending an average of two and a half to three hours a day in the gym," said McGregor.
The Manzella Jacobs approach: "I'm right and you're wrong, cos we've spoken to scientists and you haven't."
You guys will fail in what you are trying to achieve (which is a pity) because you don't understand the nature of scientific pursuit and you are rude, disrespectful and arrogant, bordering on narcisstic
You were wrong about TGM but were convinced you were right. Now you believe something else and are still convinced you are right. You are just simply convinced you are right. End of.
jeffy
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Don't know, good question.
jeffy
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That question is over my head. Better ask a scientist!
Brian Manzella
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I completely disagree.
Are you teaching the good player to do something very different than the pics?
I am not.
Brian Manzella
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The fact that anybody is asking Jeff anything about what HE THINKS of the golf swing on THIS THREAD is kinda funny, no?
johnnymarlboro
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All that and athletlically he's still got nothing on Quiros. In case my tone before was unclear, I don't really think Westwood takes part in hotdog eating contests. He's no Joey Chestnut.
For sure I do. And I don't. Depends what of those pics You mean.
Brian Manzella
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What of them, there are different of them.
And anyway even those who got more bend left wrist, there don't have to be any active. Actually You can't avoid it because of forces.
If I put here 20 top players at impact and even bit after, 18 of them got bended right wrist, not left. What happens after that, balla can't know.
Can You explain one thing: How the bending left wrist and force to direction "normal" fits together? I can't see that connection in laws of physics.
i think people are completely missing the point now. from the very first video and the first post by brian and micheal. they stated quite clearly that trying to create false lag and massive forward lean can and is detrimental to alot of golfers. they never once mentioned that lag and forward lean is a bad thing. what they did say was for alot of people studying still pictures of certain professional golfers and then trying to create that same lag and forward lean by contrived unnatural motions might not be beneficial at all to that golfer. lag is a unique part of the swing just like a flat swing an upright swing a flying elbow etc, by all means try it and see if it helps but dont be chasing it like it is the holy grail. show me a golfer that creates massive lag and forward lean that hits it a country mile and i could show 10 others with the same massive lag and forward lean that powder puffs it.
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Brian Manzella
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You are kidding, right?
Well.....
If I ain't putting any force across the shaft, or artificially keep my left wrist flat, it's going to bend.
magicmarker
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Woodland is standing in a bunker and I can't even tell if the ball is in there with him or outside of it. Not a great example.
Wouldn't there be a high margin of error when you're showing still pictures of where the hands are in relation to the clubhead at impact when BM and MJ have said the club rotates about the CP. Seems like you would only see an image of where they were at photo time as opposed to what they were doing with the club through impact, but I could be wrong.
Wouldn't there be a high margin of error when you're showing still pictures of where the hands are in relation to the clubhead at impact when BM and MJ have said the club rotates about the CP. Seems like you would only see an image of where they were at photo time as opposed to what they were doing with the club through impact, but I could be wrong.
Not a bit. I have seen players who try to avoid it as much as possible and no one could. It's really obvious thing that it have to happen because of the deceleration of the inner circle.
Bed time.. see You tomorrow
Brian Manzella
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I have a swing measured in a device like yours where I ADDED left wrist arch—10° of it—from impact to the finish!
Lindsey Newman
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Not once did I hear BM and team ask anyone to ACTIVELY bend the left wrist unless your having issue with forces going normal by ACTIVELY doing the opposite. BM and team have been constant in there teaching since day one to have some forward lean. The point is to control hand path and unleash what you have into the ball at the best possible angle of attack for optimal ball flight.
All these pictures don't tell us anything about what ball flight each player is trying for. Did Lee Buck tell anyone he trying to hit it low? This whole deal is about optimizing ball flight. Showing pictures of players playing golf is not the same.
All these pictures don't tell us anything about what ball flight each player is trying for. Did Lee Buck tell anyone he trying to hit it low? This whole deal is about optimizing ball flight. Showing pictures of players playing golf is not the same.
jeffy
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Agreed, but you can clearly see the extreme lag late into the downswing, no early release.
Here is another imperfect pic, a little after impact. Looks like he "lines it up" just fine despite the extereme lag.
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