My battle with "Over the Top"

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strav

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To achieve a path of the hands more like the image on the right - use Penicks's move. To start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot while bringing your right elbow back down to your body. This is one move, not two.
 
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Of all the things I've tried including things mentioned above I've found the most long term success following what Brian says in his youtube episode 4 addressing the first question. Swing your hands toward the ball, educated hands so to speak, it just seems like I get a consistent and proper sequence of everyting moving ie hip bump, hip turn, right shoulder down plane, axis tilt etc. For me I would stress that it happens when I focus on where I'm going with my hands.
 
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bagger1rick said:
Of all the things I've tried including things mentioned above I've found the most long term success following what Brian says in his youtube episode 4 addressing the first question. Swing your hands toward the ball, educated hands so to speak, it just seems like I get a consistent and proper sequence of everyting moving ie hip bump, hip turn, right shoulder down plane, axis tilt etc. For me I would stress that it happens when I focus on where I'm going with my hands.
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this is the only way i can play at the golf course as well
 
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puttmad

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Medici,

Or you can try this:

From the top of your downswing, try and make sure your right upper arm doesn't get ahead of your right hip until after impact (while your head stays back!...:))...
 
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Me too.
bagger1rick said:
Of all the things I've tried including things mentioned above I've found the most long term success following what Brian says in his youtube episode 4 addressing the first question. Swing your hands toward the ball, educated hands so to speak, it just seems like I get a consistent and proper sequence of everyting moving ie hip bump, hip turn, right shoulder down plane, axis tilt etc. For me I would stress that it happens when I focus on where I'm going with my hands.
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strav

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bagger1rick said:
Of all the things I've tried including things mentioned above I've found the most long term success following what Brian says in his youtube episode 4 addressing the first question. Swing your hands toward the ball, educated hands so to speak, it just seems like I get a consistent and proper sequence of everyting moving ie hip bump, hip turn, right shoulder down plane, axis tilt etc. For me I would stress that it happens when I focus on where I'm going with my hands.
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And is the path of your hands more like the image on the right or the left?
 
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Jared Willerson

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When I just think about my hands, I tend to move my hands with my hands. IOW over acceleration.

I can do well with thinking about my hands for a time, but after a while I get greedy and start wanting more and my dumbass thinks that if I move my hands faster I will hit if further. Then I have to start all over. 2 weeks of pure torture follows...sessions in the mirror until 3AM can't figure out what's wrong and then it hits me..quit moving your hands with your hands.
 
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Haven't read all of this.....

Why do you want to stop coming "OTT"?

Lots of players come "over" their backswing.

Like me, you still may need a steeper backswing though.

Only if your clubface is OK.

So:

Can you take a divot? Can you hit it low? You ever shank it?

If it's no no no......well..........maybe you are ready to learn to fade it.

(and maybe you are not even meant for an elbow plane downswing either)

Your rear-view sounded like you made a thumb on your mat when you hit it. (divot?) Be careful with your shoulders and wrists off that stuff BTW medici.

What does your ball do typically? Hook/draw.......slice/fade........high/low?

Just ideas from a non-professional.
 
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Medici999

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i can take a divot, dont really ever have a shank, struggle to hit it low as i come in to steep. i want to stop coming ott because i hit horrible slices with divots pointing well left of my intended target.
 
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Brian Manzella

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999,

You are OVER ROTATING your left arm flying wedge on the backswing.

Here is a quick fix.

Keep your right elbow higher than your left as you try to point the butt of the club on the ground behind you.

Really.
 
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I had a similar looking backswing and similar problems to yours. I fixed it by standing closer to the ball. That got my hand path moving much more vertically and getting closer to being across the line rather than laid off.
 
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Medici999

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what do you mean brian by flying wedge?
so i should be trying to get my right elbow higher than my left elbow.
where should i feel like the butt of the club is pointing?
thanks
 
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holeout

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Medici999 said:
what do you mean brian by flying wedge?
so i should be trying to get my right elbow higher than my left elbow.
where should i feel like the butt of the club is pointing?
thanks
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I feel like I can speak for him since he gave me the same fix before. He means get your right elbow higher than your left (feel that way at least) and point the butt of the club behind you, as in if you were watching yourself from a down the line point of view, the club would be pointed to the left of you at the top of the swing (or at least feel that way). It will feel more "across the line" at the top as opposed to "laid off". Or you can think of it as though the clubhead end of the club is pointed "out to right field".
 
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Medici999

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holeout...brian says get right elbow higher than left. i think i need to turn more in my backswing over my right leg to so i create some spinal tilt as my spine is far to vertical coming into impact.
 
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