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Brian Manzella

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blehnhard said:
Brian - pattern was for STT

For the RFT, I would get the clubface 'opening' early and then just lifting the club up with the cocking of the RF. Hips and Shoulders would be 'pulled' to the top/end postion.

bruce
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Do you hit a draw or a fade?

(I know I have asked before)
 
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Draw or Fade

I play a fade almost all the time with a driver (ball moves 5 to 10 yds, 255 to 260 carry) - With anything else, I can go either way (just open or close at address and open of close the clubface).

If I have to draw it off the tee, I will almost always go with a 3W.

Bruce
 
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blehnhard said:
I play a fade almost all the time with a driver (ball moves 5 to 10 yds, 255 to 260 carry) - With anything else, I can go either way (just open or close at address and open of close the clubface).

If I have to draw it off the tee, I will almost always go with a 3W.

Bruce
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Backswing is FLAT-ISH or UPRIGHT-ISH?
 
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blehnhard

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Flat or Up

I would say my tendency over the years has been to take it away flat then lift my arms a lot at the end of the back motion. Start down would be very vertical, and then I would work the shaft back to a more satisfactory plane during the downstroke (this is referring to very old videos).

I think I now get my arms moving upward now at a more even rate, so that I do not have the big lift at the top. I have not had any video work done in a while.

Just trying to get a little better (so I can keep playing well) as I get older - 64 next month - current hdcp is +2 with mediocre putting. Just so I am not 'hiding' anything, I am a former exempt player on the Senior PGA Tour. Just a weekend golfer now - playing for fun, but love the challenge of always wanting to get better.

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golfbulldog said:
Have you and Peter Croker had any further discussions re. golf since he visited you?
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Nope.

I really don't know about that meeting.

But I do know this, I am not a big fan of his pivot idea.

He was nice to me, but at first, so were a lot of people.
 
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Hey Brian....the twistaway push thing is me!!!!

Brian Manzella said:
Better ATHLETES do get some PUSH ball behavior....it's the ARCHED wrist thing.

Either more roll or less twist with more roll will fix it.
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Can you explain more the arched wrist thing. Am I now twisting too far back with the right wrist. Do I need to roll it more on impact????
 
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Brian Manzella

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blehnhard said:
I would say my tendency over the years has been to take it away flat then lift my arms a lot at the end of the back motion. Start down would be very vertical, and then I would work the shaft back to a more satisfactory plane during the downstroke (this is referring to very old videos).

I think I now get my arms moving upward now at a more even rate, so that I do not have the big lift at the top. I have not had any video work done in a while.

Just trying to get a little better (so I can keep playing well) as I get older - 64 next month - current hdcp is +2 with mediocre putting. Just so I am not 'hiding' anything, I am a former exempt player on the Senior PGA Tour. Just a weekend golfer now - playing for fun, but love the challenge of always wanting to get better.

Bruce
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I would use the STT, and make sure there is enough UP on the backstroke to not hit TOO MUCH of the inside of the ball.
 
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30yrlayoff said:
Can you explain more the arched wrist thing. Am I now twisting too far back with the right wrist. Do I need to roll it more on impact????
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The TWISTAWAY is designed to HELP a student wind up with a FLAT LEFT WRIST.

That is your goal, a FLW at the top WITH a supporting LEFT THUMB.
 
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When discussing Ben's pattern, you often say that it is a good pattern, but isn't for everyone.

Who is this pattern good for???

What physical characteristic would this golfer have???

Do you feel like it is Manzella vs the golfing world???
 
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Blast off

Michael Finney likes Ben Doyle's "Blast Off" left arm - I would agree with you - that is one powerful feeling.

I can really sense this more on shots from 100 yds in then on full swings with a driver. Nothing like a 3/4 backswing, then just turn hard left and strike the inside of the ball.

Bruce
 
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Bill Miracle

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You said a better athlete would start to push the ball as a result..

Brian Manzella said:
The TWISTAWAY is designed to HELP a student wind up with a FLAT LEFT WRIST.

That is your goal, a FLW at the top WITH a supporting LEFT THUMB.
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Not that I am a super athlete but...I am pushing like crazy. I was curious if I may be at a stage where I am overdoing the twist. So, the roll you mentioned, was that through the ball. Should I be thinking less twist???
 
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self-mastery said:
When discussing Ben's pattern, you often say that it is a good pattern, but isn't for everyone.

Who is this pattern good for???

What physical characteristic would this golfer have???

Do you feel like it is Manzella vs the golfing world???
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A talented player.

Like Mike Finney.

It worked for me at 150 lbs.

It worked for Tom Bartlett at 180.

I am moving a student of mine toward it right now—of course she has TEH MOST ability of ANY female I have ever taught.
 
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