The Release w/Brian Manzella & Michael Jacobs

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If #2 is what is meant by "closing the gap" then how does this differ from casting? It sure feels to me like I'm unwinding too early and losing lag. I tend to hit the ground behind the ball this way.

I don't know if this helps. In Watson's latest book, he says you can't start unhinging the wrists too soon in the downswing - as long as your weight has shifted onto your front foot. Nicklaus wrote the same thing in his book, The Full Swing, which Brian calls the "red pants, green shirt" book.
 
All the swings in the video-Vardon, Snead...and on and on all release with the left shoulder.
Look at Sadlowski with the left hand.
exerting linear targetward force on the shaft is bound to slow the clubhead speed.
Centripetal force is coming from the left shoulder that allows the clubhead to come in line with left arm while accelerating into impact.
Its like a rock on a string pull towards the center the speed increases.
cp cp cp
 

footwedge

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I don't know if this helps. In Watson's latest book, he says you can't start unhinging the wrists too soon in the downswing - as long as your weight has shifted onto your front foot. Nicklaus wrote the same thing in his book, The Full Swing, which Brian calls the "red pants, green shirt" book.

Isn't that a problem for most flippers, the engagement of a proper pivot while doing what M.J. is describing? I believe M.J. said in his video's that you have to pivot while employing this, maybe I'm wrong?
 
I don't know if this helps. In Watson's latest book, he says you can't start unhinging the wrists too soon in the downswing - as long as your weight has shifted onto your front foot. Nicklaus wrote the same thing in his book, The Full Swing, which Brian calls the "red pants, green shirt" book.

Thanks for the response. Maybe I've been too aggressive with this unhinging. A little too often I've hit it fat or closed the face down and pull hooked. I feel like I'm done unwinding early and the left shoulder+hands up move snaps the face closed. Is this flipping? I've always been a forward hands+hit down kind of player. Perhaps I need to work on the timing of this.

Watson also talks about hitting hard with the right hand which would seem at odds to this technique. On video it sure looks like he's doing what we are dicussing here.
 

dbl

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Isn't that a problem for most flippers, the engagement of a proper pivot while doing what M.J. is describing? I believe M.J. said in his video's that you have to pivot while employing this, maybe I'm wrong?

I agree. Now, I haven't gone to the range to try the BM/MJ "new" release, but as to the fillpper question....

I would think COFF still has value to train the pivot. THEN the golfer can utilize the "cast a fishing rod away" from the target for the hand/arm motion. IOW, the flipper has to train his pivot. Got to do that somehow, and perhaps too much (pivot and arm motion) would be detrimental. I bet Son of FlLipper will focus on Pivot and then a Project 1.68 release video will be the arm thing mentioned here in combo with) the pivot.
 

natep

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Question for the show:

Are these data findings specific to one of the two models, (Hogan/Sergio), (Nicklaus, Toms), or both?

Thanks
 

dbl

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Question for the show:

Are these data findings specific to one of the two models, (Hogan/Sergio), (Nicklaus, Toms), or both?

Thanks

This is a good question too. I can see this being a Watson swing, but not sure about if this is solely one type or if is some sort of "all good players" are "really" doing this...
 

footwedge

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One think that is amazing to me is reading posts about M.J.'s video's at other sites is how someone who watches the exact same video can come out and say things like, M.J. hasn't a clue because he's telling people to pull the butt of the club into their midsection etc. when in the video M.J makes a point of saying that's not what he's proposing.

These types of attacks and others like them coming from a self proclaimed expert in biomechanics are laughable. A "world renowned expert" in golfswing biomechanics who can't watch a video and get the facts straight even twisting the facts is in denial and lacks credibility in my view. End of rant. Apologies to Brian, couldn't help it.
 
There are some very good questions in this thread that deserve a good answer for those that want to learn from our findings and then there are some awkward questions and comments that are eagotistical and filling an agenda at the expense of those who really want to learn. The book literalists hang on to any glimmer of hope that they can salvage, and the biomechanics folks think they are the future of golf instruction. A little respect for Brian and myself would be appreciated as well, there have been some huge investments in the PROJECT 1.68 and lots of time and resources go into keeping these websites going for you the golfer to participate in at your leisure. Is hate emails and comments to my email address necessary????

Awkward, egotistical comments filling an agenda? Yes, awkward for you and the agenda is the TRUTH.

At 1:45 of the first video, you say that the aiming point concept is "you can see the hands covering some point on the target line as the clubhead comes into impact". You know or should know that is ABSOLUTELY NOT the TGM aiming point concept. The aiming point is a point on the target line at which you aim pp #3 or the butt of the club at the TOP of the BS. By impact, the hands are at "Impact Hand Location", which is to the left of the left foot by line of sight of the golfer, and at that point the hands have passed low point are headed up and in because the left shoulder is moving up and back. You are calling the impact hand location aiming point and then misstating where the hands are at impact.

You'll get respect by editing out that misinformation from your video, and I don't condone hate email.
 

footwedge

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What's the point of aiming pp#3 at a point on the target line if it's never going there? Why not aim it where it really goes.
 
Centripetal force-learn it know it believe it live it. Tis true hands are not supposed to go grossly forward. Homer was wrong.
It's not consciously pulling up with hands-the left shoulder takes care of it automatically. FLW as one golfer puts it is just a position that gets moved through in a proper swing.
 

hp12c

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Dschultz- Its videos like that that made me want to become a golf professional. Not only was the information correct and simple, but he nearly porked her at the 5:00 mark.

U said pork her! Im not the only sexual deviant in this forum I see.
 
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